- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Cavs offer Billups 5yr Deal
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:26 pm to StrongSafety
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:26 pm to StrongSafety
quote:
He's more qualified then some shuck that could never play the game.
I would just expect he would work in a front office before you hand him the reigns to the whole thing.
1
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:27 pm to SwaggerCopter
quote:
Because I'd rather have the MIT grad who can understand the complexities of the collective bargaining agreement.
But can't evaluate talent for shite?
There are a dime of dozen MIT grads that can do. It's not as rare as a player that could make it that level, be amongst the best, and be lauded for their basketball mind.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:29 pm to Fun Bunch
I'm being dead serious. Everyone knows coaching and gms jobs in sports are nepotism cesspool.what makes me think the owners or coaches son, who wasn't good enough to play, deserves a shot at those highly coveted jobs over a former players ?
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:31 pm to Boomshockalocka
How do you think Kerr, Collins, Riley, etc all got their GM/coaching jobs?
It's amazing which former players we dog for getting these jobs and which ones we don't ...
It's amazing which former players we dog for getting these jobs and which ones we don't ...
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:32 pm to Colonel Flagg
Kerr didn't
Riley didn't
Collins didn't
Paxson didn't
Mchale didn't
Bird didn't
Dumars didn't
West didn't
I could go on and on and on
Riley didn't
Collins didn't
Paxson didn't
Mchale didn't
Bird didn't
Dumars didn't
West didn't
I could go on and on and on
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:34 pm to StrongSafety
quote:
How do you think Kerr, Collins, Riley, etc all got their GM/coaching jobs?
It's amazing which former players we dog for getting these jobs and which ones we don't ...
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:37 pm to StrongSafety
People who make decisions around the league know what former players would make a good GM/coach/whatever and those guys usually get their opportunity. Does it always work out? No. but It does lots of times.. Obviously he's highly regarded enough to get his shot.
Look at all the Spurs assistants who have been hired. Borrego. Vaughn. Etc. Mostly All crap.
Otoh Kidd is doing just fine. And he had no coaching experience.
Look at all the Spurs assistants who have been hired. Borrego. Vaughn. Etc. Mostly All crap.
Otoh Kidd is doing just fine. And he had no coaching experience.
This post was edited on 6/21/17 at 11:40 pm
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:37 pm to StrongSafety
quote:
Everyone knows coaching and gms jobs in sports are nepotism cesspool
We do?
How many owners have hired their sons to be a GM or coach?
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:38 pm to Lester Earl
Or Rob Pelinka, an agent?
No one gives a shite when they hire John Hollinger or some data geek or some agent. It's just assumed that they know what they are taking about...and many of them end up as abysmal flops
No one gives a shite when they hire John Hollinger or some data geek or some agent. It's just assumed that they know what they are taking about...and many of them end up as abysmal flops
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:40 pm to StrongSafety
Because athletic ability has nothing to do with being able to manage a basketball team, financials, and scout talent. There really isn't a ton of overlap with the skillsets. The background and requisite experience and education is very different to be a basketball player or a business executive.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:42 pm to philabuck
Dan Gilbert has this really weird fascination with all things Detroit.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:52 pm to philabuck
Remember when he extended Lue multiple years?
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:53 pm to hendersonshands
Really though, I think I trust a former player to be better at coaching than being a GM.
You could be a bad athlete with high game IQ and coach.
You could also be a good player that knows the ins and outs of the game and coach it.
Making adjustments, knowing what works and what doesn't, and finding out who on your team can do what...that seems reasonable considering they played the game and see the game from the other side all their career.
but a GM? I'd imagine that's pretty tough to just jump into without even working in the background. there's so many things that goes on (player evals, coach evals, long term/short term numbers, contract negotiations, etc) that just feels a bit too much for someone to just get a grasp of right away
You could be a bad athlete with high game IQ and coach.
You could also be a good player that knows the ins and outs of the game and coach it.
Making adjustments, knowing what works and what doesn't, and finding out who on your team can do what...that seems reasonable considering they played the game and see the game from the other side all their career.
but a GM? I'd imagine that's pretty tough to just jump into without even working in the background. there's so many things that goes on (player evals, coach evals, long term/short term numbers, contract negotiations, etc) that just feels a bit too much for someone to just get a grasp of right away
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:54 pm to philabuck
I said it in the other thread and I'll say it again here...Chauncey being highly regarded isn't some revelation and this opportunity shouldn't be a surprise.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:56 pm to brgfather129
tell us more
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:59 pm to Lester Earl
No.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 6:17 am to StrongSafety
quote:
Everyone knows coaching and gms jobs in sports are nepotism cesspool.what makes me think the owners or coaches son, who wasn't good enough to play, deserves a shot at those highly coveted jobs over a former players ?
Wtf dude this isn't the slave trade
Analytics play a far larger role in player personnel than someone who has actually played the game. You think NFL scouts aren't qualified to seek out the best players because they werent All Pro? You sound bitter AF
Posted on 6/22/17 at 6:32 am to StrongSafety
quote:
He's more qualified then some shuck that could never play the game. I don't know why people think some shucks that couldn't hack as players have more clout then the free rare men on this earth that were actually good enough to play
Huh? No dude he isn't. And don't make this a race thing because I'm black and I don't think he's qualified for the position. There's other Assistant GMs/Advanced Scouts/Executives in this league that bust their arse for years for an opportunity like this and for someone who was sitting at a studio desk for a year to come and leap frog over all of them is a slap in the face to those guys
This post was edited on 6/22/17 at 6:33 am
Posted on 6/22/17 at 8:24 am to brgfather129
quote:
Chauncey being highly regarded isn't some revelation
I really hadn't heard anything about it until he got mentioned for and subsequently interviewed for the Hawks GM job.
when did his future as a front office guy become a thing?
This post was edited on 6/22/17 at 8:27 am
Posted on 6/22/17 at 8:27 am to hendersonshands
quote:
Dan Gilbert has this really weird fascination with all things Detroit.
I think he owns like 1/4 of the real estate downtown.
Nothing wrong with hiring an ex-player as GM if you think he has a keen eye for talent and bright basketball mind. You don't need cap nerds running everything.
Page 2 of 5
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News