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re: Question for Bourre players
Posted on 6/7/17 at 8:45 pm to Sampson
Posted on 6/7/17 at 8:45 pm to Sampson
Once a player has two tricks won and the ace of trump in their hand they have a " sure winner" and as such are required to play the ace a followed by their best remaining card
If player has Ace, Spot of trump and Ace off suit he must play in that order
In the strictest interpretation of the rules if the player has King, Queen of trump he must play them in that order or player reneges and the pot remains
Trust me on this I have played "house" hundreds of times back in the day when troopers from Troop L would stand around and watch our illegal back room Bourre game while drinking beer on duty. As Houseman I was required to enforce the renege rule many times on very unhappy card players.
In those games in return for supervising play/ enforcing rules the " houseman" did not ante and split winnings with Tavern owner but covers his own losses.
If player has Ace, Spot of trump and Ace off suit he must play in that order
In the strictest interpretation of the rules if the player has King, Queen of trump he must play them in that order or player reneges and the pot remains
Trust me on this I have played "house" hundreds of times back in the day when troopers from Troop L would stand around and watch our illegal back room Bourre game while drinking beer on duty. As Houseman I was required to enforce the renege rule many times on very unhappy card players.
In those games in return for supervising play/ enforcing rules the " houseman" did not ante and split winnings with Tavern owner but covers his own losses.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 8:47 pm to GreasyCracklin
Once you have 2 tricks,you are forced to come out
Posted on 6/7/17 at 8:47 pm to Sampson
I have two tricks in hand with Trump Ace and 2 high offsuits left. From the way the hand went I knew I could possibly Bourre one player if I held the Ace until the 4th card instead of playing it 3rd and winning the pot.
If it's my lead why should I have to play the Ace? I you have to play to win after the lead is played, but the rules would seem that I could lead with whatever I want because I'm setting the table so to say.
Seems like this is a contested thing among many camps.
If it's my lead why should I have to play the Ace? I you have to play to win after the lead is played, but the rules would seem that I could lead with whatever I want because I'm setting the table so to say.
Seems like this is a contested thing among many camps.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 8:47 pm to Gaston
quote:
You must play the ace or people will call you out. Period.
this
Posted on 6/7/17 at 8:50 pm to headhunter
its a shite rule if there's incentive to bourre another player. if i have high off suits and i know all they have is low off suits why would I want to burn ace trump? I understand thats the "rule" but its a crap rule
Posted on 6/7/17 at 8:50 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
I feel your pain brother. Trying to lobby for you here but too many bourre traditionalists that can't see how "playing to win" can be achieved without having to lead ace trump. communists.
This post was edited on 6/7/17 at 8:52 pm
Posted on 6/7/17 at 8:52 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Because you are assuming. Coming with that Ace after 2 tricks increases the odds of getting more trump cards out, in turn making your cards remaining even stronger as you are leading off with the 4th card. Everyone behind you then has to follow suit. What are the odds that everyone else playing had 4 or more trump cards? Answer....not good.
This post was edited on 6/7/17 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 6/7/17 at 8:52 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Because leading the Ace of Trump will require your opponent to waste a trump following suit which is your best chance to Bourne other player(s)
Posted on 6/7/17 at 8:55 pm to headhunter
quote:
headhunter
^ gets it
Posted on 6/7/17 at 8:55 pm to headhunter
You are absolutely correct
It is called "playing from the top" in vermilion parish and "from the top down" in lafayette
And if you frick it up and try to get cute some old timer will bust your arse with the quickness
It is called "playing from the top" in vermilion parish and "from the top down" in lafayette
And if you frick it up and try to get cute some old timer will bust your arse with the quickness
Posted on 6/7/17 at 8:55 pm to Sampson
Sampson
Remember, the Ace of trump will only win one trick.
I recognize the temptation to hold the Ace til later as a Frick you surprise later in the hand , but the name of the game is Bourre!
Remember, the Ace of trump will only win one trick.
I recognize the temptation to hold the Ace til later as a Frick you surprise later in the hand , but the name of the game is Bourre!
Posted on 6/7/17 at 9:00 pm to headhunter
If you have already won two tricks and still holding the trump ace, you have a cinch, in which case you must lead the highest trump.
Just as if you draw A,K & Q trump, you must lead the high trumps
Just as if you draw A,K & Q trump, you must lead the high trumps
Posted on 6/7/17 at 9:07 pm to headhunter
do you believe there is a built in money incentive to bourreing other players? If your answer is yes then I will take the time to present you one of many scenarios where not playing that bull trump is smart. You might have to throw out all your coon arse traditions and just think strictly card strategy.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 9:25 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
You play the ace no matter if you flipped it or drew. You'll always have that hardcore player that will call out your renig. Don't be a re****.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 9:28 pm to Sampson
Just say you don't like the rules. Don't come up with scenarios in an attempt to discredit the way the game is supposed to be played. Coonass traditions? Mais weh, neg.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 9:30 pm to Sampson
Headhunter quoted the rules
Not strategy
The rules of the game
Not strategy
The rules of the game
Posted on 6/7/17 at 9:42 pm to Sampson
quote:Does not mean shite - ESPECIALLY after two rounds. Good chance other players will not have same suit and cut with a trump card.
if i have high off suits and i know all they have is low off suits why would I want to burn ace trump? I understand
Posted on 6/7/17 at 9:47 pm to Sampson
quote:Would love to sit down and play a few hands with you.
Sampson
Posted on 6/7/17 at 9:47 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:Yes.
Hypothetical for you guys.
I flip the Ace on the deal.
I win the first 2 tricks
Am I know required to play the Ace?
Posted on 6/7/17 at 9:55 pm to Sampson
quote:going strictly card strategy, most of the time you're better off going ace to get rid of a round of trump and having the lead. You are wrong, Bruh.
do you believe there is a built in money incentive to bourreing other players? If your answer is yes then I will take the time to present you one of many scenarios where not playing that bull trump is smart. You might have to throw out all your coon arse traditions and just think strictly card strategy
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