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re: Business can't sell blueberries unless it affirms gay marriage
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:12 pm to AggieDub14
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:12 pm to AggieDub14
quote:
Sell your hate veggies elsewhere.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:16 pm to Quidam65
They use publically funded roads and bridges to transport their blueberries don't they? So follow the laws or else you don't get to profit off of our nation's infrastructure.
Refusing to do business with gays just because they are gay is the same as refusing to do business with blacks just because they are black.
No one is saying you have to go and get gay married yourself, or that you aren't allowed to think it is disgusting. BUT you can't and should not be able to deny someone's business based solely on their sexual orientation.
Refusing to do business with gays just because they are gay is the same as refusing to do business with blacks just because they are black.
No one is saying you have to go and get gay married yourself, or that you aren't allowed to think it is disgusting. BUT you can't and should not be able to deny someone's business based solely on their sexual orientation.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:17 pm to AZTarheeel
For the record that was a joke
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:20 pm to Salmon
quote:That say don't violate our ordinances even if you do it far far away?
What about the Vendor Guidelines? They are vendors.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:23 pm to AggieDub14
quote:
Local government made a rule. They aren't following it so they can't use the farmers market to sell their produce. They can choose to follow the rule or sell their produce elsewhere. If you don't like the local ordinances that your city creates, you can fight to have them changed or move to a place that does things differently.
I'd sue the city in federal court for religious discrimination
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:25 pm to CrazyCow202
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Refusing to do business with gays just because they are gay is the same as refusing to do business with blacks just because they are black.
They don't refuse to do business with gays. Gay people can buy all the blueberries they want. They refuse to host a religious ceremony on their property for gay couples.
I realize that the City has gays as a protected class and thus the ruling. I'll always disagree with protected classes though.
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:25 pm to AlxTgr
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That say don't violate our ordinances even if you do it far far away?
I would assume it says that all vendors must comply with City Ordinances...yes
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:27 pm to Salmon
Same point...It is the same thing as refusing to allow blacks to get married at your place of business.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:28 pm to CrazyCow202
quote:
Same point...It is the same thing as refusing to allow blacks to get married at your place of business.
I'm aware.
I'm for the right for private citizens to discriminate when it comes to their property.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:30 pm to Quidam65
Cool. I assume the city is also refusing to do business with all Catholic, Muslim, Baptist and other religious entities, including hospitals, schools, homeless shelters, soup kitchens, abused women's homes, etc.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:32 pm to Salmon
Then like I said above, don't use the publically funded roads, fire department, and police department.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:32 pm to Salmon
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I'm for the right for private citizens to discriminate when it comes to their property.
Agreed
Especially when the law only makes it illegal to discriminate for certain reasons.
Want to discriminate against redheads (and really who doesn't discriminate against redheads?) that's fine, they are not "protected"
That's a blatant violation of the 14th Amendment since it obviously does not give equal protection to all
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:33 pm to AggieDub14
quote:hardcore authoritarianism.
Fascism is basically
In practice it is USUALLY right-wing.
You CAN have left-wing fascism, ftr. Soviet Russia, PRK, Venezuela, and to some degree Singapore are good examples of left-wing fascism.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:34 pm to CrazyCow202
quote:
Then like I said above, don't use the publically funded roads, fire department, and police department.
Not sure I follow. If the business pays its taxes, why shouldn't they be allowed to use the roads or other public services?
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:36 pm to AlxTgr
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Because that is where the "violations" of the city ordinance are occurring. There is nothing right about this.
And that's the issue.
What would stop them from, say, requiring the business to pay $15/hour wages to workers not working in the city? Or providing benefits to same-sex workers not working in the city?
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:40 pm to AggieDub14
quote:
Local government made a rule. They aren't following it so they can't use the farmers market to sell their produce. They can choose to follow the rule or sell their produce elsewhere. If you don't like the local ordinances that your city creates, you can fight to have them changed or move to a place that does things differently.
Your post is stupid.
If you read the article, the city said the farmers would not be allowed to sell their items because they did not allow gay weddings on their property.
This had nothing to do with discrimination as to people they sold food to at all.
The city was wrong period.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:56 pm to Salmon
quote:That's absurd. Sure, comply while there because you...are there. The "non-compliance" is in an area governed by a completely different legislative body.
I would assume it says that all vendors must comply with City Ordinances...yes
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:02 pm to Loserman
quote:
Your post is stupid.
If you read the article, the city said the farmers would not be allowed to sell their items because they did not allow gay weddings on their property.
This had nothing to do with discrimination as to people they sold food to at all.
The city was wrong period.
You, and those who agree with you, are wrong. And here's why.
Let's say that instead of this being a gay issue, it was simply a health issue.
Let's say the city had an ordinance that said that anyone who had at any time failed a health and safety inspection couldn't sell food products at the farmer's market.
Then let's say this place DID fail a safety inspection in another county and this city said "nope can't sell food here"
Is the city wrong? Of course not.
So , stop confusing the issue. where the business is located is irrelevant. This is a simple matter of religious discrimination by the city. It's simple the city ordinance says in effect "if your religion says X you can not do Y" I'd sue their asses off on that basis.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 3:05 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Ah the ole "Let's all pretend we are being discriminated against as Christians to argue that we can discriminate against gay people" argument. Gotta love that one.
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