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Trump should get rid of the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals

Posted on 5/26/17 at 4:33 am
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 4:33 am
He is already splitting up the nasty 9th Circuit, he may as well do the same for the 4th Circuit.

It is a Travel Ban, not a Muslim Ban.
Posted by TigernMS12
Member since Jan 2013
5661 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 4:53 am to
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He is already splitting up the nasty 9th Circuit, he may as well do the same for the 4th Circuit.


Trump has no such authority. Only Congress can do that. There has been no credible mention of them even considering breaking up the Ninth, although I do not think it would be a bad idea.

I wish people on this site would learn a little bit about the shite they come here to talk about before they hit submit.
This post was edited on 5/26/17 at 6:22 am
Posted by fumundacheese
Member since May 2017
65 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 5:06 am to
The thing that is hurting Trump is that he had said Muslim ban during elections. Also, his administration has said Muslim ban before. That's why it's not going anywhere.
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7822 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 5:29 am to
Didn't you hear Trump WON he has the power to do whatever he wants. Because he won. And he's Trump. That's how it works. President = unlimited ruler of the universe. Unless a Democrat got elected. Then screw that he or she needs to be arrested. For being a Democrat. Because that should be a crime.

MURICA!!!!
Posted by UHTiger
Member since Jan 2007
5231 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 6:12 am to
No he isn't and no he won't
Posted by UHTiger
Member since Jan 2007
5231 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 6:14 am to
It's called trumptardism and us the same as alt-right conservatism. It's a mental disorder
Posted by blowmeauburn
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2006
8038 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 6:15 am to
Lol so much dumb shite gets posted here. It's like I'm talking to my grandparents after a 12 hour Fox News and chain email binder.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
20451 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 6:19 am to
Why not the constitution too, while we're at it?
Posted by Mudge87
NOLA
Member since Apr 2014
559 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 6:28 am to
The 4th Circuit is actually known to be one of the more conservative federal appellate courts in the country.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
53439 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 6:29 am to
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The thing that is hurting Trump is that he had said Muslim ban during elections. Also, his administration has said Muslim ban before. That's why it's not going anywhere.


And this is a flawed argument when the EO itself has no such language.

Dems are being babies
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69216 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 7:35 am to
Actually, McCain introduced a bill to break up the 9th, not due to politics, but because it has a far longer backlog of cases thsn any other circuit.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162027 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 7:55 am to
Current composition of the court

LINK

Obama stacked the court.

Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
79113 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 7:58 am to
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It is a Travel Ban, not a Muslim Ban.



So you bought it too, huh?
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 8:04 am to
Banning muslim immigration and protecting our border are logical actions. I realize though, that logic seems like crazy talk to leftists
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
87733 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 8:06 am to
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Banning muslim immigration and protecting our border are logical actions


Constitution be damned
Posted by jackmanusc
Columbia, SC
Member since Apr 2012
3948 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 8:21 am to
Fun fact: one of the main grievances of the founding fathers was the kings unilateral prerogative to appoint and dismiss judges.

Here is one of the indictments from the Declaration of Independence

quote:

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 8:26 am to
quote:

The thing that is hurting Trump is that he had said Muslim ban during elections.

So what? Major Muslim countries were not banned. He said that to, so why the selective interpretation?
Posted by Superior Pariah
Member since Jun 2009
8457 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 8:29 am to
So if the Supreme Court strikes down the travel ban should Trump liquidate that, too?
Posted by Quarterite
The Lower Quarter
Member since Oct 2016
959 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 8:39 am to
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And this is a flawed argument when the EO itself has no such language.


Well, the ruling is based not only on the text of the EOs. The court interprets them in the context of Trump's campaign promises. Here's a passage from pages 18 and 19.

The First and Second Executive Orders were issued against a backdrop of public statements by the President and his advisors and representatives at different points in time, both before and after the election and President Trump’s assumption of office. We now recount certain of those statements. On December 7, 2015, then-candidate Trump published a “Statement on Preventing Muslim Immigration” on his campaign website, which proposed “a total and
complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country’s representatives can figure out what is going on.”


Et cetera...

Searchable PDF of the ruling: LINK
This post was edited on 5/26/17 at 8:41 am
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
19296 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 8:47 am to
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Didn't you hear Trump WON he has the power to do whatever he wants. Because he won. And he's Trump. That's how it works. President = unlimited ruler of the universe. Unless a Democrat got elected. Then screw that he or she needs to be arrested. For being a Democrat. Because that should be a crime.

MURICA!!!!


He just needs to get a pen and phone I guess.
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