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The National Seeding picture...Updated 5/27 - Updated with all Host Sites
Posted on 5/19/17 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 5/19/17 at 3:04 pm
I will try to list the teams up for discussion for a National Seed, and break each one of them down.
Pretty Much Locked in:
1. Oregon State - 48-4 (27-3) - #1 RPI - 81 SOS -
10-0 vs. Top 50 RPI - 1st place in Pac 12 -
vs. Abilene Christian (4 game series) - Won first 3
Oregon State has an ugly SOS, but it's hard to punish them for it when they never ever lose.
2. Louisville - 47-10 (23-6) - #5 RPI - 72 SOS -
12-8 vs. Top 50 RPI - 1st place in Atlantic -
1st overall in ACC -
vs. Notre Dame (ACC Tourney) W - 10-3
vs. FSU (ACC Tourney) L - 4-2
-ELIMINATED FROM TOURNEY
Bad bad SOS. Also a bad finish to the season should send them falling down the rankings of national seeds. Not enough to remove them from being one though.
3. North Carolina - 47-11 (23-7) - #2 RPI - 18 SOS -
20-6 vs Top 50 RPI - 1st place in Coastal -
2nd overall in ACC
vs. Boston College (ACC Tourney) W - 10-0
vs. NC State (ACC Tourney) W- 12-4
vs. Miami (ACC Tourney) W 12-4
vs. FSU (ACC Championship)
Pretty strong resume here. UNC will grab one of the top 3 seeds for sure.
6. Florida - 42-16 (21-9) - #3 RPI - 2 SOS -
23-12 vs. top 50 RPI - 1st SEC East -
Tie 1st SEC
vs. Auburn (SEC Tourney) W - 5-4
vs. Miss St (SEC Tourney) W - 12-3
vs. Arkansas (SEC Tourney) L- 0-16
ELIMINATED FROM TOURNEY
Trending - The most impressive resume of them all. I personally think they should get the 1 seed, but I'm not expecting the committee to feel the same.
5. Texas Tech - 43-15 (16-8) - #4 RPI - 27 SOS -
16-11 vs. Top 50 RPI - Tie 1st place in Big 12
vs. Oklahoma St (Big 12 Tourney) L 0-3
vs. Baylor (Big 12 Tourney) W- 4-1
vs. W. Virginia (Big 12 Tourney) L - 7-12
ELIMINATED FROM TOURNAMENT
Texas Tech has done plenty enough at this point.
4. TCU - 42-16 (16-8) - #7 RPI - 31 SOS -
17-9 vs. Top 50 RPI - Tie 1st place in Big 12 -
vs. Kansas (Big 12 Tourney) L- 3-7
vs. Oklahoma (Big 12 Tourney) W - 9-4
vs. Kansas W - 6-0
vs. Texas W - 9-2
vs. Texas L - 3-9
ELIMINATED FROM TOURNEY
TCU had a pretty strong finish to lock them into a national seed.
8. LSU - 41-17 (21-9) - #6 RPI - 11 SOS -
23-13 vs. Top 50 RPI - 1st SEC West -
Tie 1st SEC
vs. Mizzou (SEC Tourney) W - 10-3
vs. Kentucky (SEC Tourney) W - 10-0
vs. South Carolina (SEC Tourney) W- 10-0
vs. Arkansas (SEC Championship)
Talk about red hot. Not long ago, they were fighting for a national seed. Now we are talking about how high they should be seeded.
Fighting for a spot
7. Kentucky - 39-20 (19-11) - #10 RPI - 9 SOS-
18-15 vs. Top 50 RPI - 2nd SEC East -
3rd SEC
vs. South Carolina (SEC Tourney) W - 7-2
vs. LSU (SEC Tourney) L - 0-10
vs. S. Carolina (SEC Tourney) L- 1-3
ELIMINATED FROM TOURNAMENT
10. Stanford - 40-14 (20-9) - #9 RPI - 37 SOS -
10-8 vs. Top 50 RPI - 2nd in Pac 12
vs. Washington State (3 game series) - Won all 3
Trending - Passed up Kentucky in RPI. I think this sticks the final nail in the coffin for Kentucky.
11. Southern Miss - 48-13 (25-5) - #8 RPI - 66 SOS-
10-3 vs. Top 50 RPI - 1st in CUSA-
vs. UTSA (CUSA Tourney) L - 2-9
vs. Louisiana Tech (CUSA Tourney) W- 5-2
vs. UTSA (CUSA Tourney) W- 7-1
vs. Charlotte (CUSA Tourney) W- 6-5
vs. Rice (CUSA Championship)
Southern Miss is making their push. USM now sits ahead of Stanford and Kentucky in RPI. SOS is what may give Stanford the edge though.
Unlikely candidates
12. Wake Forest - REMOVED FROM DISCUSSION
13. Baylor - REMOVED FROM DISCUSSION
14. Clemson - REMOVED FROM DISCUSSION
My Predictions
1. Oregon State
2. Florida
3. UNC
4. LSU
5. Texas Tech
6. Louisville
7. TCU
8. Stanford
Next In:
9. Kentucky
10. Southern Miss
Predicted Host Sites
9. Kentucky
10. Southern Miss
11. Long Beach State
12. Wake Forrest
13. Virginia
14. Houston
15. Arkansas
16. Florida State
That last spot is kind of a question. Missouri State, UCF, Mississippi State, Clemson, Arizona, West Virginia are all contenders.
1. Oregon State vs. Long Beach State
2. UNC vs. Arkansas
3. Florida vs. Florida State
4. Texas Tech vs. Virginia
5. LSU vs. Houston
6. Louisville vs. Southern Miss
7. TCU vs. Wake Forrest
8. Stanford vs. Kentucky
Pretty Much Locked in:
1. Oregon State - 48-4 (27-3) - #1 RPI - 81 SOS -
10-0 vs. Top 50 RPI - 1st place in Pac 12 -
vs. Abilene Christian (4 game series) - Won first 3
Oregon State has an ugly SOS, but it's hard to punish them for it when they never ever lose.
2. Louisville - 47-10 (23-6) - #5 RPI - 72 SOS -
12-8 vs. Top 50 RPI - 1st place in Atlantic -
1st overall in ACC -
vs. Notre Dame (ACC Tourney) W - 10-3
vs. FSU (ACC Tourney) L - 4-2
-ELIMINATED FROM TOURNEY
Bad bad SOS. Also a bad finish to the season should send them falling down the rankings of national seeds. Not enough to remove them from being one though.
3. North Carolina - 47-11 (23-7) - #2 RPI - 18 SOS -
20-6 vs Top 50 RPI - 1st place in Coastal -
2nd overall in ACC
vs. Boston College (ACC Tourney) W - 10-0
vs. NC State (ACC Tourney) W- 12-4
vs. Miami (ACC Tourney) W 12-4
vs. FSU (ACC Championship)
Pretty strong resume here. UNC will grab one of the top 3 seeds for sure.
6. Florida - 42-16 (21-9) - #3 RPI - 2 SOS -
23-12 vs. top 50 RPI - 1st SEC East -
Tie 1st SEC
vs. Auburn (SEC Tourney) W - 5-4
vs. Miss St (SEC Tourney) W - 12-3
vs. Arkansas (SEC Tourney) L- 0-16
ELIMINATED FROM TOURNEY
Trending - The most impressive resume of them all. I personally think they should get the 1 seed, but I'm not expecting the committee to feel the same.
5. Texas Tech - 43-15 (16-8) - #4 RPI - 27 SOS -
16-11 vs. Top 50 RPI - Tie 1st place in Big 12
vs. Oklahoma St (Big 12 Tourney) L 0-3
vs. Baylor (Big 12 Tourney) W- 4-1
vs. W. Virginia (Big 12 Tourney) L - 7-12
ELIMINATED FROM TOURNAMENT
Texas Tech has done plenty enough at this point.
4. TCU - 42-16 (16-8) - #7 RPI - 31 SOS -
17-9 vs. Top 50 RPI - Tie 1st place in Big 12 -
vs. Kansas (Big 12 Tourney) L- 3-7
vs. Oklahoma (Big 12 Tourney) W - 9-4
vs. Kansas W - 6-0
vs. Texas W - 9-2
vs. Texas L - 3-9
ELIMINATED FROM TOURNEY
TCU had a pretty strong finish to lock them into a national seed.
8. LSU - 41-17 (21-9) - #6 RPI - 11 SOS -
23-13 vs. Top 50 RPI - 1st SEC West -
Tie 1st SEC
vs. Mizzou (SEC Tourney) W - 10-3
vs. Kentucky (SEC Tourney) W - 10-0
vs. South Carolina (SEC Tourney) W- 10-0
vs. Arkansas (SEC Championship)
Talk about red hot. Not long ago, they were fighting for a national seed. Now we are talking about how high they should be seeded.
Fighting for a spot
7. Kentucky - 39-20 (19-11) - #10 RPI - 9 SOS-
18-15 vs. Top 50 RPI - 2nd SEC East -
3rd SEC
vs. South Carolina (SEC Tourney) W - 7-2
vs. LSU (SEC Tourney) L - 0-10
vs. S. Carolina (SEC Tourney) L- 1-3
ELIMINATED FROM TOURNAMENT
10. Stanford - 40-14 (20-9) - #9 RPI - 37 SOS -
10-8 vs. Top 50 RPI - 2nd in Pac 12
vs. Washington State (3 game series) - Won all 3
Trending - Passed up Kentucky in RPI. I think this sticks the final nail in the coffin for Kentucky.
11. Southern Miss - 48-13 (25-5) - #8 RPI - 66 SOS-
10-3 vs. Top 50 RPI - 1st in CUSA-
vs. UTSA (CUSA Tourney) L - 2-9
vs. Louisiana Tech (CUSA Tourney) W- 5-2
vs. UTSA (CUSA Tourney) W- 7-1
vs. Charlotte (CUSA Tourney) W- 6-5
vs. Rice (CUSA Championship)
Southern Miss is making their push. USM now sits ahead of Stanford and Kentucky in RPI. SOS is what may give Stanford the edge though.
Unlikely candidates
12. Wake Forest - REMOVED FROM DISCUSSION
13. Baylor - REMOVED FROM DISCUSSION
14. Clemson - REMOVED FROM DISCUSSION
My Predictions
1. Oregon State
2. Florida
3. UNC
4. LSU
5. Texas Tech
6. Louisville
7. TCU
8. Stanford
Next In:
9. Kentucky
10. Southern Miss
Predicted Host Sites
9. Kentucky
10. Southern Miss
11. Long Beach State
12. Wake Forrest
13. Virginia
14. Houston
15. Arkansas
16. Florida State
That last spot is kind of a question. Missouri State, UCF, Mississippi State, Clemson, Arizona, West Virginia are all contenders.
1. Oregon State vs. Long Beach State
2. UNC vs. Arkansas
3. Florida vs. Florida State
4. Texas Tech vs. Virginia
5. LSU vs. Houston
6. Louisville vs. Southern Miss
7. TCU vs. Wake Forrest
8. Stanford vs. Kentucky
This post was edited on 5/28/17 at 8:47 am
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Posted on 5/19/17 at 3:15 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
These boys know the stakes at hand. I hope they come fired up tonight and kick MSST arse. Go up 2-0. They will be real close to locking up an national seed
This post was edited on 5/19/17 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 5/19/17 at 4:07 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
quote:
6. Florida - 38-15 (19-9) - #5 RPI - 3 SOS - 14-11 vs. top 50 RPI - Tie 1st SEC East - Tie 1st SEC vs. Kentucky
7. Kentucky - 38-16 (19-9) - #7 RPI - 12 SOS- 19-10 vs. Top 50 RPI - Tie 1st SEC East - Tie 1st SEC vs. Florida
8. LSU - 36-17 (19-9) - #11 RPI - 11 SOS - 19-13 vs. Top 50 RPI - 1st SEC West - Tie 1st SEC vs. Mississippi State
I've been watching this, and with UF's record against Top 50, I've been wondering why people were saying they were a lock. I don't see it. And I could be mistaken, but did they help themselves with the Stetson game they called after 4...trailing 10-0 or whatever...that didn't count?
This post was edited on 5/19/17 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 5/19/17 at 4:12 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
quote:
10-13 vs Top 50 RPI
Ooh, that's going to bite Clemson in the arse if they don't get over .500 in the ACC tourney.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 4:13 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
You can add Florida to pretty safe
Posted on 5/19/17 at 5:40 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
Southern miss is another unlikely. 12 RPI. More top 50 wins than Clemson and Wake. 42 wins.
This post was edited on 5/19/17 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 5/19/17 at 6:16 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
I'd like to think if UK can take 2/3 from Florida that winning series over two potential national seeds (LSU and IF we can Florida) as well as splitting with a locked in seed (Louisville) helps.
Clemson continuing to shite the bed helps all of us.
Clemson continuing to shite the bed helps all of us.
Posted on 5/21/17 at 8:57 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
Bump for updates after the weekend.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 6:59 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
Updated with conference tournament games.
I really like the way the ACC does their tournament.
Shame on the Pac 12 for not even having a damn tournament.
I really like the way the ACC does their tournament.
Shame on the Pac 12 for not even having a damn tournament.
Posted on 5/25/17 at 8:05 am to Hold That Tiger 10
Updated:
GOOD NEWS (for LSU):
- LSU wins
- Clemson loses
- Southern Miss loses
BAD NEWS (for LSU):
- Kentucky wins
Changed up some of my national seed rankings, but no changes among the 8 national seeds at this point.
GOOD NEWS (for LSU):
- LSU wins
- Clemson loses
- Southern Miss loses
BAD NEWS (for LSU):
- Kentucky wins
Changed up some of my national seed rankings, but no changes among the 8 national seeds at this point.
Posted on 5/25/17 at 8:17 am to Hold That Tiger 10
quote:
8. Stanford
Should not get one over UK & USM...but I can see them getting one based on location which is BS
Posted on 5/25/17 at 9:12 am to Hold That Tiger 10
I'd guess UK would have to win the SECT to get one.
Posted on 5/25/17 at 11:47 am to Hold That Tiger 10
Oregon State really hasn't played anyone. I'm interested to see how they perform vs real competition.
Posted on 5/25/17 at 3:00 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
We will finish with a SOS only behind Florida, and possibly Kentucky.
A lot will depend on where we finish RPI wise, but it could climb up some more depending on who we play and who others play.
A lot will depend on where we finish RPI wise, but it could climb up some more depending on who we play and who others play.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 6:37 am to Hold That Tiger 10
Updated....
Changes:
- I now have 7 teams locked in. LSU's win yesterday locked them in, if they weren't already locked before.
- Despite the loss to LSU, I moved Kentucky ahead of Stanford for now. Their resume is just too impressive to leave out.
- Now we have 3 teams fighting for the final spot (Stanford, Kentucky, Southern Miss). Wake Forest is still lurking, if they can win the ACC Tournament and get some major help from the other 3 teams.
- Some big movement among my predicted national seed rankings. LSU's resume will just be too impressive to leave at 6 or 7. They will probably have the second best resume among national seeds, in terms of RPI and SOS. If the committee ranks according to resume, LSU has to be up. I am almost tempted to put Florida as the #1 overall, but Oregon St. just has too pretty of a record. Their SOS is HORRIBLE though, and will continue to fall. Still couldn't pull that trigger though.
Changes:
- I now have 7 teams locked in. LSU's win yesterday locked them in, if they weren't already locked before.
- Despite the loss to LSU, I moved Kentucky ahead of Stanford for now. Their resume is just too impressive to leave out.
- Now we have 3 teams fighting for the final spot (Stanford, Kentucky, Southern Miss). Wake Forest is still lurking, if they can win the ACC Tournament and get some major help from the other 3 teams.
- Some big movement among my predicted national seed rankings. LSU's resume will just be too impressive to leave at 6 or 7. They will probably have the second best resume among national seeds, in terms of RPI and SOS. If the committee ranks according to resume, LSU has to be up. I am almost tempted to put Florida as the #1 overall, but Oregon St. just has too pretty of a record. Their SOS is HORRIBLE though, and will continue to fall. Still couldn't pull that trigger though.
This post was edited on 5/26/17 at 6:40 am
Posted on 5/27/17 at 10:20 am to Hold That Tiger 10
Updated.....took a wild guess at all host sites, since National Seeds are all pretty much decided. Only question remains Stanford or Kentucky.
Posted on 5/27/17 at 1:05 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
we win today we are 5 or 6.... we win the sec we are 2 or 3
Posted on 5/27/17 at 2:45 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
LSU locked in yet?? 
Posted on 5/27/17 at 5:03 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
quote:
Predicted Host Sites
16. Missouri St (surprise pick)
If Houston beats ECU tomorrow, they'll likely get the last host spot.
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