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re: Occams Razor says Seth Rich was murdered

Posted on 5/16/17 at 6:46 am to
Posted by tedmarkuson
texas
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 5/16/17 at 6:46 am to
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I have yet to see anyone deny he was murdered. It's the huge leap the rapid Trumptards take to insist the clintons were involved.










Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72419 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 6:50 am to
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I have yet to see anyone deny he was murdered. It's the huge leap the rapid Trumptards take to insist the clintons were involved.
I agree that it is a huge jump to "Clintons did it", but it is shady as hell.

The timing, the person murdered, the political aspects surrounding it.

It stinks to high heaven and I think it is a huge disservice to our society to just disregard the idea that it was a political murder.
Posted by mofungoo
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
4583 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 6:53 am to
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Failed robberies happen literally every day. It is completely unremarkable that Rich may have panicked (or the thug may have panicked), shot him, and then run off.

That's our story, and we're sticking with it.

Signed,

The Clinton Campaign
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68904 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 6:57 am to
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Computer hacks happen literally every day. It is completely unremarkable that foreign actors may have hacked and released DNC information (with no contact at all to Trump), gave it to Wikileaks, and then disappeared.



FIFY
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
148131 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 7:12 am to
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I have yet to see anyone deny he was murdered. It's the huge leap the rapid Trumptards take to insist the clintons were involved.

The Clinton'a and Obama were involved. No way they discovered Seth w/o the help of the Obama political espionage team. AKA our intel community. It all makes sense now. Why else would the DNC and HRC not allow the FBI to help her after she was supposedly hacked? She was hacked three months of Sunday's by everyone and their mother overseas. (She sent classified info on her phone overseas) As well as easy peasy hacks because Podesta is an idiot with phishing and his I<3Hillary password.

But it is so much easier to just blame it all on the Russians; and have Obama order our IC to put Russian handprints on all of it.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 7:13 am to
So this board's official position is that it is totally improbable for a robbery by a random thug to go wrong and someone to wind up dead?

Despite the fact that shite happens pretty fricking often in both NOLA and BR?

I'm not saying anything definitive about either situation. I would just like some affirmative proof of either either theory, not a bunch of conjecture and general theorycrafting about muh Russians or muh Clintons.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
43165 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 7:16 am to
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His family formally announced he was in contact with Wikileaks at the time of his death. Forensic evidence was discovered on his laptop.


oh shite - Special Investigator time.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35252 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 7:17 am to
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So this board's official position is that it is totally improbable for a robbery by a random thug to go wrong and someone to wind up dead?
Apparently it's bordering on certainty that he was politically assassinated, but the assassin couldn't even steal anything to make it look like a robbery. And apparently if you question about assassination, you're supporting the people who hired the assassin, whomever they may be.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 7:20 am to
Dude was trying to big time some drug dealers and they pulled his card. Everybody in DC knows this.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72419 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 7:21 am to
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Apparently it's bordering on certainty that he was politically assassinated, but the assassin couldn't even steal anything to make it look like a robbery. And apparently if you question about assassination, you're supporting the people who hired the assassin, whomever they may be.
If he was the one who leaked the information, that is a massive coincidence if it was just a robbery gone wrong.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 7:21 am to
This board's ability to wildly oscillate between "I need evidence"/"Unnamed sources are meaningless" and "It's obvious that it was X despite a lack of any evidence"/"Unnamed sources said something I agree with? It's totes true" astounds me.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72419 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 7:23 am to
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This board's ability to wildly oscillate between "I need evidence"/"Unnamed sources are meaningless" and "It's obvious that it was X despite a lack of any evidence"/"Unnamed sources said something I agree with? It's totes true" astounds me.


I agree. I would like a more thorough investigation though. If he was the leaker, this murder case warrants a massive investigation effort, does it not?
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35252 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 7:24 am to
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If he was the one who leaked the information, that is a massive coincidence if it was just a robbery gone wrong.
People get wrongfully convicted for Coincidences, even more. And some random criminal wouldn't know of these Coincidences.
This post was edited on 5/16/17 at 7:27 am
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73520 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 7:25 am to
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yet deny Seth Rich was murdered


I can't think of anyone that has denied this.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 7:25 am to
That is true, but coincidences do happen. I don't say that to be flippant, but stranger things have happened.

Let's assume that he was the leaker. There is still a lot of holes in the case if we are pretending this is a normal investigation into a crime.

This would fall into a very strange realm of assassination if that's what it is. It's covered up enough that there's no way to know it was a hit (which means it loses a lot of deterrence) but also not covered up enough to throw political enemies off the trail (meaning you open yourself up to investigation).

I have more faith in a professional hitman to make a convincing robbery scene than I do a random thug in a major American city.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72419 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 7:26 am to
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People get wrongfully convicted for Coincidences, when more. And some random criminal
Sure, but if he was the leaker, should his murder not warrant a massive investigation? Instead, we get the "it was just a random mugging gone wrong" defense.

If he is tied to something as big as the DNC email leak, hell, everything from the FBI to a special prosecutor should be involved.

How is that unreasonable?
This post was edited on 5/16/17 at 7:27 am
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 7:27 am to
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If he was the leaker, this murder case warrants a massive investigation effort, does it not?


I don't know about massive, but sure investigate this and the Russians thing. I think it is better on both sides for things to be fully investigated and any corruption to be rooted out.

Republicans control all major branches of government and Trump promised to lock Clint up. I just don't think anything will come of either.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35252 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 7:28 am to
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Sure, but if he was the leaker, should his murder not warrant a massive investigation?
His murder should warrant a major investigation because he was murdered. And if he was the leaker, that should warrant an investigation itself. If those two things begin to converge, then so be it. It's not a good idea to start an investigation with a preconceived idea without any evidence. That's a major reason why so many innocent people get wrongfully convicted.
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How is that unreasonable?
You're not the one being unreasonable. Others have already determined guilt.
This post was edited on 5/16/17 at 7:31 am
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
148131 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 7:28 am to
This involves local dirty DC police politico cover up and the FBI. I wonder if this is now coming to a head because the one stonewalling it in bed with the Clinton's was fired? There is def a there, there with this.

quote:

"The police department nor the FBI have been forthcoming,” said Wheeler. “They haven't been cooperating at all. I believe that the answer to solving his death lies on that computer, which I believe is either at the police department or either at the FBI. I have been told both.”

When we asked Wheeler if his sources have told him there is information that links Rich to Wikileaks, he said, “Absolutely. Yeah. That's confirmed."

Wheeler also told us, "I have a source inside the police department that has looked at me straight in the eye and said, ‘Rod, we were told to stand down on this case and I can’t share any information with you.’ Now, that is highly unusual for a murder investigation, especially from a police department. Again, I don’t think it comes from the chief’s office, but I do believe there is a correlation between the mayor's office and the DNC and that is the information that will come out [Tuesday].

A full report with the new details will air Tuesday morning on FOX News



New details coming. Has anyone checked HRC's or Obama's twitter?
This post was edited on 5/16/17 at 7:31 am
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 7:29 am to
Remember what I just said about unnamed sources?

If there is evidence then I would love to see it.
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