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re: Am I Wrong For Thinking This? (Military Related)
Posted on 5/15/17 at 7:33 am to TigerFanInSouthland
Posted on 5/15/17 at 7:33 am to TigerFanInSouthland
Your deployment is coming.
SECDEF wants a troop surge into Afghanistan. It'll most likely happen.
SECDEF wants a troop surge into Afghanistan. It'll most likely happen.
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 7:34 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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I also want to know, at least in some way, what Marines have gone through before me at places like Belleau Wood or Okinawa or Chosin or Khe Sahn or Fallujah.
no you don't.
You rogered up, signed a contract, and have made yourself available for Uncle Sam...that's all he has asked of you. Why go looking for trouble?
Posted on 5/15/17 at 7:42 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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I don't want a war or anything necessarily, but I also want to know, at least in some way, what Marines have gone through before me at places like Belleau Wood or Okinawa or Chosin or Khe Sahn or Fallujah.
That, my friend, is the definition of insanity. Militaries, war and slaughter are symptoms of a species that is literally insane on an individual and collective level. You should be glad when your contract is up and chalk it all up as a bad decision.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 7:59 am to genuineLSUtiger
Good lord hippy
Posted on 5/15/17 at 8:04 am to genuineLSUtiger
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That, my friend, is the definition of insanity. Militaries, war and slaughter are symptoms of a species that is literally insane on an individual and collective level. You should be glad when your contract is up and chalk it all up as a bad decision.
Do you want to speak Chinese bc this is how you end up speaking Chinese.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 8:10 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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I don't want a war or anything necessarily, but I also want to know, at least in some way, what Marines have gone through before me at places like Belleau Wood or Okinawa or Chosin or Khe Sahn or Fallujah. Am I wrong for thinking that my time in the Marine Corps will be wasted if I never deploy and get to do my job?
Wrong for thinking it? Eh, I mean, are you thinking "if I don't kill some people, my time in the USMC is wasted?" Then yes.
If you're thinking, "I want to save lives and protect people," then just thinking that means you're doing the right thing, and the fact you never got to do it is irrelevant. You signed up, and put your life on the line for your country and to protect people. The fact that there wasn't a conflict during your term that required you to go out there is hardly your fault, and honestly shouldn't be viewed as a bad thing. The less we have to put our soldiers in harms way, the better.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 9:18 am to TigerFanInSouthland
Absolutely not wrong for feeling that way. I wouldn't say you're less of a Marine than the guys who've been in Fallujah, but you'll never be the same as they are. If you haven't been in it you won't understand what they've experienced.
I had a front row seat to their battle in fallujah in '04. 10k outside the city waiting for them to need some help. But they were kicking arse.
For civilians to understand is rare.
I had a front row seat to their battle in fallujah in '04. 10k outside the city waiting for them to need some help. But they were kicking arse.
For civilians to understand is rare.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 9:19 am to skrayper
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if I don't kill some people, my time in the USMC is wasted?" Then yes.
I'm not thinking this. It's more along the lines of just wanting to be able to go out and do my job at some point. It's like practicing without ever playing in a game. It kinda sucks.
This post was edited on 5/15/17 at 9:21 am
Posted on 5/15/17 at 9:23 am to TigerFanInSouthland
And you need to get you one of them CARs, broseph.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 9:24 am to terd ferguson
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And you need to get you one of them CARs, broseph.
No CAR, no care.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 9:27 am to TigerFanInSouthland
"Well you seen much combat?"
"I've seen a litte on TV."
"I've seen a litte on TV."
Posted on 5/15/17 at 9:31 am to TigerFanInSouthland
"Those also serve who only stand and wait". John Milton
As i recall he wanted a role in the civil war government of Cromwell. Not in the cards.
You must live by faith and accept gods love. Then what happens is given by Grace, whether you live or die in combat or go and come back with a purple heart and a life altering wound.
Begin now to accept that you were never in charge. God is in charge.
Tl;dr. Everything is a gift from god. Everything. On loan. On loan. Not yours.
As i recall he wanted a role in the civil war government of Cromwell. Not in the cards.
You must live by faith and accept gods love. Then what happens is given by Grace, whether you live or die in combat or go and come back with a purple heart and a life altering wound.
Begin now to accept that you were never in charge. God is in charge.
Tl;dr. Everything is a gift from god. Everything. On loan. On loan. Not yours.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 9:34 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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I don't want a war or anything necessarily, but I also want to know, at least in some way, what Marines have gone through before me at places like Belleau Wood or Okinawa or Chosin or Khe Sahn or Fallujah. Am I wrong for thinking that my time in the Marine Corps will be wasted if I never deploy and get to do my job?
You are an idiot
Posted on 5/15/17 at 9:53 am to BulldogXero
Wants the experience but not all the time. He thought he would get to go over, be part of war, be stressed and show up in courage and be effective. Then come home. Battle ribbon. Distinguished service. Be there when the commandant reviews the troops when a battle pendant is placed. Hooah.
This post was edited on 5/15/17 at 9:54 am
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:01 am to CelticDog
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battle pendant
I believe the term you're looking for is pennant... or streamer
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:12 am to terd ferguson
Pennant.
Yes
Getting old.
Pendant is an object on a chain.
Pennant, a battle ribbon.
Point is, he wants to feel identified with the entire stream of military history of the corps from Tripoli to now and training on weekends does not confer that feeling.
He can reup as active duty.
He can accept the gift on loan from god.
He will be praised and blamed no matter which he chooses.
Yes
Getting old.
Pendant is an object on a chain.
Pennant, a battle ribbon.
Point is, he wants to feel identified with the entire stream of military history of the corps from Tripoli to now and training on weekends does not confer that feeling.
He can reup as active duty.
He can accept the gift on loan from god.
He will be praised and blamed no matter which he chooses.
This post was edited on 5/15/17 at 10:16 am
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:43 am to choupiquesushi
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FWIW... it's much better to be home wishing you were deployed than to be deployed wishing you were home. A true warrior doesn't look for war, he looks for peace. War is always there if you look for it. When it finds the warrior then he must fight. Being prepared for war is not a waste....... diary of a cold warrior.....
^^^^ this!!
was in the marines for 8 years. joined right after the 1st gulf war, got out 1 month prior to 9/11, which led to the Afghanistan and 2nd gulf war. i was in kuwait in 1998 for 8 months and went into iraq for clinton's wag the dog operation...but never saw live combat.
barely missed both of them. felt like i was somewhat of a failure for a while considering i missed both. but i know i was ready, and after all of this time, too many people have thanked me for just being ready to go, so it helped getting over those thoughts.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:59 am to TigerFanInSouthland
Not an uncommon feeling for those who don't deploy. I spent my time in during the tail end of the cold war. Not a lot of "action" but I did see Panama (thanks to Op Just Cause) and a couple of other very minor skirmishes - but nothing like today's action.
I would think there is a way to volunteer for a deployment if you searched it out.
The bigger issue is net, net you wrote the check only assholes would think less of a non-deployed Marine and a deployed one...
I would think there is a way to volunteer for a deployment if you searched it out.
The bigger issue is net, net you wrote the check only assholes would think less of a non-deployed Marine and a deployed one...
Posted on 5/15/17 at 11:03 am to TigerFanInSouthland
my college roommate was an USMC reservist, then went to OCS.
this is in 1990 right before desert storm, so he deployed and as we know they barely fired a shot
he got back home and went thru peacetime stations (cuba, 29 palms, etc) then didnt get augmented so he took discharge and went on with his life. after 9/11 he tried to get back into the reserves but by then he was older and they didnt need majors, but he was disappointed and tried for years to get back in to no avail. i told him to go hug his wife and kids, and thanked him for what he did do
so go hug whoever you have there, and thanks for what you did do
this is in 1990 right before desert storm, so he deployed and as we know they barely fired a shot
he got back home and went thru peacetime stations (cuba, 29 palms, etc) then didnt get augmented so he took discharge and went on with his life. after 9/11 he tried to get back into the reserves but by then he was older and they didnt need majors, but he was disappointed and tried for years to get back in to no avail. i told him to go hug his wife and kids, and thanked him for what he did do
so go hug whoever you have there, and thanks for what you did do
Posted on 5/15/17 at 11:09 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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I feel like if I never deploy that it may as well have been a slight waste of time.
No. You should have no regrets. I served during peace time as well. It is what it is.
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I wrong for thinking that my time in the Marine Corps will be wasted if I never deploy and get to do my job?
Yes. You've done more than most by serving our country. Keep you head up and be proud of serving in the military.
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