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re: Russia did not hack the DNC. The FBI did not investigate it. The company lied.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:34 pm to Navytiger74
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:34 pm to Navytiger74
quote:
They were provided with enough good information,
information so good that it had to be reduced from "medium confidence" to "low confidence"
please...this is just hilarious.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:36 pm to CptBengal
What I have always found weird about this story is why the DNC refused to let the Obama led justice dept and FBI look at that server. Why would you deny the preeminent investigative agency in the country access and instead run it through a private business instead? My only conclusion is that there was stuff on that server that DNC officials did not want the FBI to see. I'd be willing to bet it is was a lot more damning than the stuff that got released.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:38 pm to CptBengal
You are one ignorant, bore-sighted, trumpkin troll. Do you really think this entire case is entirely built upon the Crowdstrike report? Which, by the way, maintained the essence of its conclusions. Do you think that?
Keep chortling clown. Because your little dream is going sideways fast.
Keep chortling clown. Because your little dream is going sideways fast.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:39 pm to CptBengal
Lets not forget some of the details for why they walked it back.
The tools used to indicate fancy bear were old versions that at the time of the phishing (if that ever actually happened) were something like three patches behind the most recent and were available to non state actors. FancyBear is more than capable of covering it's tracks so indications based on IP addresses are ludicrous in the extreme. And since this all came out, Wikileaks published the CIA's handbook on how to make any attack look exactly like this to divert blame to the russians.
The idea that the DNC could only have been hacked by Putin and friends is absurd. I'm not saying it wasn't russian hackers, but there are russian hackers groups who are billion dollar plus entities at this point. They have the people to do anything they want to do. State actors have the ability to send armies of average hackers at you from every angle all day every day. But one gifted hacker can be more effective than that army. And almost nothing is more effective than an insider. Which it usually is in these cases where large numbers of files are lost.
Wikileaks made it clear that they were given the DNC file IN PERSON IN WASHINGTON DC. And Assange almost admitted in an interview that it was Seth Rich that did it.
Occam's Razor folks...
The tools used to indicate fancy bear were old versions that at the time of the phishing (if that ever actually happened) were something like three patches behind the most recent and were available to non state actors. FancyBear is more than capable of covering it's tracks so indications based on IP addresses are ludicrous in the extreme. And since this all came out, Wikileaks published the CIA's handbook on how to make any attack look exactly like this to divert blame to the russians.
The idea that the DNC could only have been hacked by Putin and friends is absurd. I'm not saying it wasn't russian hackers, but there are russian hackers groups who are billion dollar plus entities at this point. They have the people to do anything they want to do. State actors have the ability to send armies of average hackers at you from every angle all day every day. But one gifted hacker can be more effective than that army. And almost nothing is more effective than an insider. Which it usually is in these cases where large numbers of files are lost.
Wikileaks made it clear that they were given the DNC file IN PERSON IN WASHINGTON DC. And Assange almost admitted in an interview that it was Seth Rich that did it.
Occam's Razor folks...
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:39 pm to Navytiger74
quote:
You are one ignorant, bore-sighted, trumpkin troll. Do you really think this entire case is entirely built upon the Crowdstrike report?
Yes it is.
That's where all the evidence came from. The FBI said so.
You're a fricking moron, and watching you flail is hilarious.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:40 pm to CptBengal
quote:No, it's not.
Yes it is.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:41 pm to Navytiger74
Navytiger74
Stop pretending like you know anything
This melt is unreal
Stop pretending like you know anything
This melt is unreal
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:43 pm to Navytiger74
quote:
quote:
Yes it is.
No, it's not.
Hope little one...hope.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:43 pm to Mephistopheles
quote:Which ones were permitted access to the server?
17 security agencies
/thread
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:44 pm to Loserman
quote:
The info was provided by an insider on the DNC payroll, and it was not a criminal offense but a firing offense(I
Seth Rich completely misunderstood what they meant by "firing offense".
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:46 pm to CptBengal
quote:
The FBI requested direct access to the Democratic National Committee’s (DNC) hacked computer servers but was denied,
DNC probably didn't want the FBI to have their hands on their shady dealings.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:50 pm to CptBengal
quote:Oh well. I give up hope. Since the only way for intelligence agencies to conduct cyber threat analysis is through physical forensic examination of the receptive end-user, I guess we should all just drop this charade. Sorry for wasting your time with my lies, Bengal.
Hope little one...hope.
At least it's Friday.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:51 pm to Navytiger74
quote:
Oh well. I give up hope. Since the only way for intelligence agencies to conduct cyber threat analysis is through physical forensic examination of the receptive end-user, I guess we should all just drop this charade. Sorry for wasting your time with my lies, Bengal
I really feel bad for you.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:52 pm to CptBengal
quote:
read the link clown.
Read the link from an anonymously posted story from Zerohedge.
You are the clown.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:54 pm to CptBengal
quote:Why? I mean I'm pretty embarrassed that we had a childish egomaniacal boob with questionable associations unwittingly helped to the presidency by our chief adversaries, but these things tend to work out. We'll get em next time.
I really feel bad for you.
You with me?
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:56 pm to Navytiger74
quote:
I mean I'm pretty embarrassed that we had a childish egomaniacal boob with questionable associations unwittingly helped to the presidency by our chief adversaries,
Now back to the Russians narrative.
You're the gift that keeps giving.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:56 pm to CptBengal
quote:Is the subject of the thread something else?
Now back to the Russians narrative.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:59 pm to Navytiger74
quote:
s the subject of the thread something else?
It was about the DNC hack.
Nothing in CrowdStrike's false report....mentions Trump at all you blithering tart.
I mean you really have to be a frickign moron at this point.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:09 pm to Navytiger74
quote:
unwittingly helped to the presidency by our chief adversaries
How?
Clarify that for me. Because if you're saying that it was the Russians that got the DNC emails, you have no proof to back that up. Zero. That's just paranoia at this point. But even so, nothing in those emails was faked. The DNC did it to themselves. They fixed the election to keep Bernie out, and they didn't have their email system locked down securely. That's on the DNC and nobody else.
If you want to bitch about someone helping Trump get the presidency by affecting the election, there's really only one person who deserves that title, and he's now looking for a job.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:17 pm to Captain Rumbeard
quote:Oh we'll see. You can believe that.
Because if you're saying that it was the Russians that got the DNC emails, you have no proof to back that up. Zero. That's just paranoia at this point.
Until then, as you said, don't worry about it. All smoke and mirrors. Enjoy your weekend.
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