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Russia did not hack the DNC. The FBI did not investigate it. The company lied.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 5/12/17 at 1:57 pm
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Crowdstrike is the cybersecurity company hired by the DNC to determine who hacked their accounts: it took them a single day to determine the identity of the culprits – it was, they said, two groups of hackers which they named “Fancy Bear” and “Cozy Bear,” affiliated respectively with the GRU, which is Russian military intelligence, and the FSB, the Russian security service.
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The FBI requested direct access to the Democratic National Committee’s (DNC) hacked computer servers but was denied, Director James Comey told lawmakers on Tuesday. The bureau made “multiple requests at different levels,” according to Comey, but ultimately struck an agreement with the DNC that a “highly respected private company” would get access and share what it found with investigators. “We’d always prefer to have access hands-on ourselves if that’s possible,” Comey said, noting that he didn’t know why the DNC rebuffed the FBI’s request.
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An influential British think tank and Ukraine’s military are disputing a report that the U.S. cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike has used to buttress its claims of Russian hacking in the presidential election. The CrowdStrike report, released in December, asserted that Russians hacked into a Ukrainian artillery app, resulting in heavy losses of howitzers in Ukraine’s war with Russian-backed separatists. But the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS) told VOA that CrowdStrike erroneously used IISS data as proof of the intrusion. IISS disavowed any connection to the CrowdStrike report. Ukraine’s Ministry of Defense also has claimed combat losses and hacking never happened. The challenges to CrowdStrike’s credibility are significant because the firm was the first to link last year’s hacks of Democratic Party computers to Russian actors, and because CrowdStrike co-founder Dimiti Alperovitch has trumpeted its Ukraine report as more evidence of Russian election tampering.
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The whole Russian hacking thing is made up.
Just made up.
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Posted on 5/12/17 at 1:59 pm to CptBengal
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The whole Russian hacking thing is made up.
Just made up.
Welcome to July of last year.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 1:59 pm to CptBengal
Zemeckis, a precoging conduit, channels the 911 archetype with his tower striked Twin Pines terror attack cinematic super imposition. Both scenes featuring the trans-dimensional portal pointing to 911 as the archetype of transcendence. The consciousness portal is opened by touching the 2001 Monolith, the movie screen, as touching the two dimensional screen dispels its three dimensional guise.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:00 pm to kingbob
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Welcome to July of last year.
Then why is Muh Russians still going on?
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:03 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:When did you start using again?
Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:03 pm to CptBengal
I wouldn't normally just dismiss a story based on it's source, but in this case, I'm using the current version of the most popular browser on the most widely used operating system and the site keeps scrolling me back up to the top.
So yeah, frick that, I'll go with the fact that 17 security agencies said that Russia did and moreso that wikileaks, who ended up with the DNCs emails, have been identified as being deferential to Russia by our intelligence agencies (but iraq blah blah blah doesn't count if you didn't oppose Iraq). I do appreciate that you cut and pasted large segments of the text without stopping to give more than a line of your own thoughts and opinions on the matter, on this here "discussion" board.
So yeah, frick that, I'll go with the fact that 17 security agencies said that Russia did and moreso that wikileaks, who ended up with the DNCs emails, have been identified as being deferential to Russia by our intelligence agencies (but iraq blah blah blah doesn't count if you didn't oppose Iraq). I do appreciate that you cut and pasted large segments of the text without stopping to give more than a line of your own thoughts and opinions on the matter, on this here "discussion" board.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:05 pm to Wolfhound45
I have belieed from the beginning that Obama was behind the leaks and hacks. I still believe it.
I think he intended to damage Hillary, but not the point that Trump would beat her. That was a miscalculation on his part.
The whole "she's the most qualified candidate to ever run for President" business just further convinced me, who the hell would believe that Obama would say Hillary was more qualified than he was when he ran?
I think he intended to damage Hillary, but not the point that Trump would beat her. That was a miscalculation on his part.
The whole "she's the most qualified candidate to ever run for President" business just further convinced me, who the hell would believe that Obama would say Hillary was more qualified than he was when he ran?
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:08 pm to CptBengal
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Then why is Muh Russians still going on?
Because it gives the DNC a reason to question every decision, every hiring, every firing, every foreign policy deal, etc that Trump makes. It is a good narrative because it is flexible and can mean anything they want it to mean at any time. Since 90% of the major media outlets simply parrot the talking points the DNC gives them, they have zero, I repeat, zero motivation to stop parroting this narrative.
The purpose was to deny Trump a honeymoon period, and it worked. The idea was to delegitimize the Trump regime in the eyes of voters. To an extent, it's working. The idea was to force Trump into a box on foreign policy, to an extent, it's working. The idea was to give an excuse for all of their social media drones to be out and calling for a coup. That has clearly worked.
Why would they stop now? The media merely reports what they're told to report on. The GOPe wants to use this meme to take out Trump or at least pressure him into complying with their demands. There's zero consequences for keeping up the farce. Consequences can only be felt if they stop and admit their mistakes, so they're just going to keep blaring it until Trump is out of office.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:08 pm to Draconian Sanctions
"Jar Jar is the key to all this" -George Lucas
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:08 pm to Mephistopheles
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I'll go with the fact that 17 security agencies said that Russia did
false. it was 3...and none of them investigated the server.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:09 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Let's throw the incredibly flimsy Ukraine denial out the window.
There is plenty of other forensic evidence that shows the attacks were committed by a large group of native Russian language speakers with the funding and expertise of a state-level actor.
Hmmmm? Who could it be?
There is plenty of other forensic evidence that shows the attacks were committed by a large group of native Russian language speakers with the funding and expertise of a state-level actor.
Hmmmm? Who could it be?
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:09 pm to Foy
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There is plenty of other forensic evidence that shows the attacks were committed by a large group of native Russian language speakers with the funding and expertise of a state-level actor.
link?
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:11 pm to CptBengal
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The whole Russian hacking thing is made up. Just made up.
Made up by Ukrainian nationalists, and promoted by the dirty DNC.
Democrats don't have morals, so they don't care.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:12 pm to CptBengal
Russia MAY have hacked the DNC.
The truth is we have Zero evidence that they did so.
Not only do we have zero evidence, we do know that not ONE of the 17 intelligence agencies EVER even got to examine the server in question. Yes you read that right! No US intelligence agency EVERY saw, touched, or forensically examined any DNC server!
I know I know, the media has reported that 17 US intelligence agencies believe they MAY have.
So why do I say it is the truth we have ZERO evidence they did? Because Zero evidence has ever been provided by any intelligence agency, much less 17 that this occurred.
But hey, Wapo, CNN, Mother Jones, Huff Post says muh Russians.
That should be good enough for anybody.
The truth is we have Zero evidence that they did so.
Not only do we have zero evidence, we do know that not ONE of the 17 intelligence agencies EVER even got to examine the server in question. Yes you read that right! No US intelligence agency EVERY saw, touched, or forensically examined any DNC server!
I know I know, the media has reported that 17 US intelligence agencies believe they MAY have.
So why do I say it is the truth we have ZERO evidence they did? Because Zero evidence has ever been provided by any intelligence agency, much less 17 that this occurred.
But hey, Wapo, CNN, Mother Jones, Huff Post says muh Russians.
That should be good enough for anybody.
This post was edited on 5/12/17 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:12 pm to Foy
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There is plenty of other forensic evidence
No, there isn't. Stop lying.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:13 pm to CptBengal
You're a fool to post anything from Zerohedge on a subject like this. All the articles to Zerohedge are posted anonymously, and Zerohedge is run by a Russian leaning, conspiracy theorist Romanian, Krassimir Ivandjiiski.
A worthless post.
A worthless post.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:13 pm to Foy
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There is plenty of other forensic evidence that shows the attacks were committed by a large group of native Russian language speakers with the funding and expertise of a state-level actor.
What evidence? The entire narrative is based on one testimony, by one company, the only group that was allowed to examine the servers. All of the intelligence agencies were denied the opportunity to examine the servers that were penetrated, so they were only able to decide based on the information they were given. Seeing as how Crowdstrike, the sole source of the Russia narrative has already recanted their analysis, there is literally ZERO evidence, let me repeat ZERO, that Russia was involved whatsoever.
Wikileaks said the leaks came from within the DNC. Wikileaks has never once published false documents, and has repeatedly taken on Russia and China despite what the media says. Half a dozen DNC staffers mysteriously die within a week of the leaks being made public. There's a whole lot more smoke that this was an inside job with an attempted cover up than that the Russians did this.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:13 pm to CptBengal
The attacker or attackers registered a deliberately misspelled domain name used for email phishing attacks against DNC employees, connected to an IP address associated with APT 28/Fancy Bear.
Malware found on the DNC computers was programmed to communicate with an IP address associated with APT 28/Fancy Bear.
Metadata in a file leaked by “Guccifer 2.0? shows it was modified by a user called, in cyrillic, “Felix Edmundovich,” a reference to the founder of a Soviet-era secret police force. Another document contained cyrillic metadata indicating it had been edited on a document with Russian language settings.
Peculiarities in a conversation with “Guccifer 2.0? that Motherboard published in June suggests he is not Romanian, as he originally claimed.
The DCLeaks.com domain was registered by a person using the same email service as the person who registered a misspelled domain used to send phishing emails to DNC employees.
Some of the phishing emails were sent using Yandex, a Moscow-based webmail provider.
A bit.ly link believed to have been used by APT 28/Fancy Bear in the past was also used against Podesta.
Malware found on the DNC computers was programmed to communicate with an IP address associated with APT 28/Fancy Bear.
Metadata in a file leaked by “Guccifer 2.0? shows it was modified by a user called, in cyrillic, “Felix Edmundovich,” a reference to the founder of a Soviet-era secret police force. Another document contained cyrillic metadata indicating it had been edited on a document with Russian language settings.
Peculiarities in a conversation with “Guccifer 2.0? that Motherboard published in June suggests he is not Romanian, as he originally claimed.
The DCLeaks.com domain was registered by a person using the same email service as the person who registered a misspelled domain used to send phishing emails to DNC employees.
Some of the phishing emails were sent using Yandex, a Moscow-based webmail provider.
A bit.ly link believed to have been used by APT 28/Fancy Bear in the past was also used against Podesta.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:14 pm to Wolfhound45
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When did you start using again?
PoliTalk is a hell of a drug.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:14 pm to CptBengal
For all the cries about fake news on this site, you link to a site where the writer doesn't even use his real name?
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