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re: Lebron's biggest failure --- he hasn't played on an historically great team

Posted on 5/4/17 at 12:52 pm to
Posted by CelticDog
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Posted on 5/4/17 at 12:52 pm to
1. he will never get credit for the 3-1 comeback. Everyone knows that if Green plays in game 6, while Bogut is still playing, the W's are at least 50/50 to finish it off.

2. He famously did not contribute in crunch time in losses.

If he gets hot on a roll, there is no one like him. But several players over the past 75 years have had the intestinal fortitude to play their best when the game was on the line.

He is not in the top tier for courage under fire. He's just not.

Russell
Barry
Pettit
Cousy
MJ


Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
8186 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 12:55 pm to
Pretty sure Lebron has the best productivity in history in elimination games and game 7's
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25902 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 12:57 pm to
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He is not in the top tier for courage under fire. He's just not.

This is the stupidest thing currently believed by a large portion of sports fans.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:34 pm to
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1. he will never get credit for the 3-1 comeback. Everyone knows that if Green plays in game 6, while Bogut is still playing, the W's are at least 50/50 to finish it off.
1. LOL

2. It was game 5, not game 6.

3. CLE beat GS with Draymond in game 7, so...


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2. He famously did not contribute in crunch time in losses.
He's famously contributed in more big time wins in crunch time than probably ever NBA player not named MJ.

Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
45254 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:21 pm to
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He is not in the top tier for courage under fire. He's just not.


So if you're in a Game 7, you'd rather have LeBron facing you than have him on your team?
Posted by imraged
Member since Nov 2010
2343 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:45 pm to
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If he gets hot on a roll, there is no one like him. But several players over the past 75 years have had the intestinal fortitude to play their best when the game was on the line.

He is not in the top tier for courage under fire. He's just not.


When the game is on the line? Try having your entire legacy on the line. LeBron is probably the greatest elimination game player of all time.

Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35254 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:55 pm to
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while Bogut is still playing, the W's are at least 50/50 to finish it off.
Bogut played 60 minutes in the first 5 games. They were -15 in those 60 minutes; they were +37 in the 180 minutes he didn't play. In other words, GSW was 0.456 points better each minute he was off the court than on. That's 21.9 points in a 48 minute game.
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He famously did not contribute in crunch time in losses.
Unless you're referring the 2011, then I'm not sure what you are talking about.
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If he gets hot on a roll, there is no one like him. But several players over the past 75 years have had the intestinal fortitude to play their best when the game was on the line.
As Imagred shows above, Lebron averages 32.9 points, 10.8 rebounds, and 6.9 assists in elimination games. Nobody has performed to that level. So you are completely wrong.
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