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re: Muslim refugees straining minnesota health sector due to disease outbreaks

Posted on 4/30/17 at 10:04 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124596 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 10:04 am to
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Which is in no way related to the current outbreak in Minnesota.
Link?

All you know is the population was unvaccinated, and that our ridiculous immigration policies encouraged influx of a cultural Petri dish
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 10:06 am to
We love our measles don't we folks?!
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73414 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 10:09 am to
Well you only posted two words. I didn't figure I'd have to spell it out for you. My mistake for overestimating you. Again.

Try harder. There's only two words. I know you can do it.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18167 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 10:12 am to
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A strong vaccination program with education should solve the problem quickly.


Why didn't Obama and the CDC demand that these people be vaccinated before they got here? What else are they carrying?
Posted by Paluka
One State Over
Member since Dec 2010
10763 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 10:16 am to
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Why didn't Obama and the CDC demand that these people be vaccinated before they got here? What else are they carrying?


Regardless of who's in office, I would think this would be a top priority. The Feds supposedly "vet" refugees but don't vaccinate?
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20521 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 10:17 am to
It's like integrating anyone group from the Stone age, there will be some growing pains.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
49156 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 10:17 am to
Why are we letting Somalis in? They have the trifecta of bad traits
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
21607 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 10:19 am to
sewage gonna sewage
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 10:47 am to
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Apparently the International Medical Council on Vaccinations believes this too? Perhaps you two know more than they do?

LINK

And so does the source article:
Dr. Andrew Bostom, M.D., an academic internist specializing in general internal medicine who has also authored several books about the history of Islam, said Muslim communities often prove difficult to convince that vaccinations are appropriate for their children.

“The case against vaccinations is first an Islamic one,” he said, citing a 2011 article by Dr. Majid Katme, spokesman for the Islamic Medical Association in the United Kingdom.

“We are giving our innocent children haram [forbidden] substances and harmful chemicals that destroy their natural immune systems, causing disease, suffering and death,” Dr. Katme wrote.

Read more at LINK

Now, I don't normal take what WND says, but when it is backed up by the International Medical Council on Vaccinations, I would say it makes his statement seem a bit more true.

However, as i said...perhaps you two know more about this than the medical professionals and the Muslims. (Muslims are quoted in the International Medical Council on Vaccinations article.

Mind sharing your sources that they have absolutely no problem with vaccinations, so we can make an informed decision?


... and the regressives can stfu now.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76748 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 10:57 am to
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Why are we letting Somalis in? T

Bc our country is chock full of white guilt liberal retards who actually think hordes of their world immigrants will magically make the US better. These liberals threw a tantrum when Trump tried to temporarily pause immigration from Somalia. Which is just utterly unbelievable. But that's your modern Democrat party.
Posted by CarrolltonTiger
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
50291 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 11:42 am to
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Apparently a lot of normal ignorant white people believe this too based on my facebook feed.


Agreed, it is just a result of the introduction of unassimilable Somalis's. It doesn't matter what religion they are, they will be a burden on a civilized society.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
59009 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 12:27 pm to
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You should do more research on your 'sources'. From their "about" page:


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These are not the people you want to believe when you're looking for facts.


Ok. So you ignore the other links where they quote Muslims doctors that back up what I am saying?

Let me help you

A MUSLIM doctors’ leader has provoked an outcry by urging British Muslims not to vaccinate their children against diseases such as measles, mumps and rubella because it is “un-Islamic”.

Dr Abdul Majid Katme, head of the Islamic Medical Association, is telling Muslims that almost all vaccines contain products derived from animal and human tissue, which make them “haram”, or unlawful for Muslims to take.

Islam permits only the consumption of halal products, where the animal has had its throat cut and bled to death while God’s name is invoked.

Should we ignore the Muslim doctor since he disagrees with your view? Obviously you know more about Muslims than the Muslims.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
59009 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 12:30 pm to
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well I guess that settles it.

I seriously wonder how alot of you function on a day to day basis




So, your position is that you ignore the Muslim Doctor who said they should not take part in vaccinations because it is against their Islamic laws, just like I said. You cannot even read a simple article that I copied and pasted for you and you wonder how I function in society?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
59009 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 12:32 pm to
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Lack of herd immunity due to unavailability of childhood vaccinations in Somalia before they came here. A strong vaccination program with education should solve the problem quickly.




And there is no way it could have something to do with this:

Dr. Andrew Bostom, M.D., an academic internist specializing in general internal medicine who has also authored several books about the history of Islam, said Muslim communities often prove difficult to convince that vaccinations are appropriate for their children.

“The case against vaccinations is first an Islamic one,” he said, citing a 2011 article by Dr. Majid Katme, spokesman for the Islamic Medical Association in the United Kingdom.

“We are giving our innocent children haram [forbidden] substances and harmful chemicals that destroy their natural immune systems, causing disease, suffering and death,” Dr. Katme wrote.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 12:34 pm to
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Lack of herd immunity due to unavailability of childhood vaccinations in Somalia before they came here. A strong vaccination program with education should solve the problem quickly.

Thats probably true. Do you know of any program that is addressing that problem? It's been going on for years.

*These people would most likely have been turned back at Ellis Island...The "Give us your poor..blah, blah", had standards to be met*
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72368 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 12:34 pm to
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It is against muslim tradition to vaccinate children
Well, all of the Muslims I treat must be doing it wrong then.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
59009 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 12:34 pm to
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It's to google.com. Weren' really clear what you were asking for, so I figured I'd teach you how to fish instead of give you the fish.


You are correct, because I have been flat out giving you the fish from several sources (One you didn't like) and you still couldn't figure out what to do with it.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
59009 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 12:40 pm to
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It is against muslim tradition to vaccinate children

Well, all of the Muslims I treat must be doing it wrong then.


All Muslims do not follow strict Muslim laws and traditions, just like all Christians do not follow strict Christians beliefs.
How many Muslim patients do you have? (I assuming you are a doctor, since you said you treat them?)
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17388 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 2:30 pm to
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medical doctors, registered nurses and other qualified medical professionals
quote:

These are not the people you want to believe when you're looking for facts
Duly noted. Thanks.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 2:31 pm to
Muslims are a plague on the world
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