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re: NBA - Rank the young C/PFs
Posted on 4/3/17 at 10:39 am to floridatigah
Posted on 4/3/17 at 10:39 am to floridatigah
Embiid over Davis?
Lmao
Lmao
1
Posted on 4/3/17 at 11:10 am to CocoLoco
When you compare the stats the thing that stands out Is how much better embiid is at blocking shots/rim protection(embiid #1 iirc) and shooting 3s. And he's only a rookie mind you.
Pts/Reb basically a wash. Advanced stuff doesn't tell us much bc jojo was on the MInutes restriction.
Pts/Reb basically a wash. Advanced stuff doesn't tell us much bc jojo was on the MInutes restriction.
This post was edited on 4/3/17 at 11:47 am
Posted on 4/3/17 at 11:20 am to VerlanderBEAST
Myles Turner
Rudy Gobert
1. Karl-Anthony Towns
2. Anthony Davis
3. Nikola Jokic
4. Joel Embiid
5. Kristaps Porzingis
6. Myles Turner
7. Rudy Gobert
Posted on 4/3/17 at 11:25 am to imraged
He's at the bottom of the list you posted but you gotta have Steven Adams in there who's still only 23.
Posted on 4/3/17 at 11:38 am to CocoLoco
Are you sure about that?
Posted on 4/3/17 at 11:50 am to rockchlkjayhku11
1. Shaq
2. Russell
3. Abdul-Jabbar
4. Duncan
5. Olajuwon
6. Wilt
7. Dirk
8. Barkley
9. McHale
10. A. Davis
11. D. Green
12. Cousins
13. Drummond
14. Griffin
15. The Admiral
2. Russell
3. Abdul-Jabbar
4. Duncan
5. Olajuwon
6. Wilt
7. Dirk
8. Barkley
9. McHale
10. A. Davis
11. D. Green
12. Cousins
13. Drummond
14. Griffin
15. The Admiral
Posted on 4/3/17 at 12:00 pm to vengeanceofrain
what about nurkic? He's arguably the reason why portland is even in the discussion for the 8th seed right now.
15/10/3 in 20 games with a new team, shoots 51% from the field
15/10/3 in 20 games with a new team, shoots 51% from the field
Posted on 4/3/17 at 12:22 pm to DallasTiger45
quote:
Not sure why Myles Turner is included in this discussion. He's a good player, but he's outclassed by everyone else on this list.
If I knew all would be healthy:
Anthony Davis
Joel Embiid
KAT
Jokic
Gobert
Kristaps
Myles Turner
Turner is also the youngest guy, having just played this season as a 20 year old. Second only to KAT in win shares from that draft class - better than Porzingis and Devin Booker
Posted on 4/3/17 at 1:08 pm to Boomshockalocka
Every GM takes AD over Embiid and doesn't think twice
I think people forget AD is still very young. He's efficient; he is absolutely an elite scorer as well
I think people forget AD is still very young. He's efficient; he is absolutely an elite scorer as well
Posted on 4/3/17 at 1:08 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
100%
You don't watch the Pels. I do. I have seen Davis own KAT literally every time they have played. He comes out on top every game. I love KAT, but he's not as good.
You don't watch the Pels. I do. I have seen Davis own KAT literally every time they have played. He comes out on top every game. I love KAT, but he's not as good.
This post was edited on 4/3/17 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 4/3/17 at 1:11 pm to CocoLoco
quote:
You don't want the Pels
Valid
Posted on 4/3/17 at 1:14 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
Watch**
Posted on 4/3/17 at 1:18 pm to CocoLoco
Also valid 
But anyways, I'm not sold on Davis over towns. It could be just preference at this point, but towns has been every bit as good as AD even this year, and is younger.
But anyways, I'm not sold on Davis over towns. It could be just preference at this point, but towns has been every bit as good as AD even this year, and is younger.
This post was edited on 4/3/17 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 4/3/17 at 1:25 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
KAT over AD, AD over Embiid though
Posted on 4/3/17 at 1:27 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
KAT is the better passer and is better from 3
Davis is a better defender and have more to his arsenal offensively. Davis is second only to Jordan and Lebron in career PER.
Regardless, AD will be first team all NBA this year. Towns has a good chance to be as well.
Davis is a better defender and have more to his arsenal offensively. Davis is second only to Jordan and Lebron in career PER.
Regardless, AD will be first team all NBA this year. Towns has a good chance to be as well.
Posted on 4/3/17 at 1:34 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:
When you compare the stats the thing that stands out Is how much better embiid is at blocking shots/rim protection(embiid #1 iirc) and shooting 3s.
He is number 1 in block percentage, and number 3 in FG diff%, but I'm not sure that these stats are significant due to his small sample size. They definitely show that he has potential, though.
Posted on 4/3/17 at 1:36 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
quote:
towns has been every bit as good as AD even this year
I guess defense doesn't matter to you. AD is way better defensively than KAT, and kicks his arse 1v1 every time they play.
Posted on 4/3/17 at 1:39 pm to CocoLoco
Year 2 comparisons
RPM
Davis: +4.34
KAT: +1.81
On/Off Rating
Davis: +1.9
KAT: -0.1
WS/48
Davis: 0.212
KAT: 0.193
VORP
Davis: 3.9
KAT: 4.6
PER
Davis: 26.5
KAT: 25.3
TS%
Davis: 58.2
KAT: 61.0
RPM
Davis: +4.34
KAT: +1.81
On/Off Rating
Davis: +1.9
KAT: -0.1
WS/48
Davis: 0.212
KAT: 0.193
VORP
Davis: 3.9
KAT: 4.6
PER
Davis: 26.5
KAT: 25.3
TS%
Davis: 58.2
KAT: 61.0
Posted on 4/3/17 at 1:44 pm to CocoLoco
quote:
Davis is a better defender and have more to his arsenal offensively
KATs offensive game is more advanced as a 21 year old than Davis's was.
quote:
AD is way better defensively than KAT, and kicks his arse 1v1 every time they play.
You're talking 24 y/o vs a 21 y/o. And KAT is still 26/8 w a TS% of 60% vs AD this year
Posted on 4/3/17 at 1:49 pm to GynoSandberg
quote:
KAT is still 26/8 w a TS% of 60% vs AD this year
AD is 38/11 with a TS% of 75% VS KAT
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