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re: So long climate change
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:09 pm to PoundFoolish
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:09 pm to PoundFoolish
quote:
Trump, who has called global warming a 'hoax' invented by the Chinese
Jesus Christ, this man is insane
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Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:10 pm to Dale51
quote:
Again...the question was..Why can't the "worried about the weather" advocates never seem to be able to point out anything in the real world or here and now that would be indicative of the effects of an unnatural change in the climate? After half a century of fear mongering, they can come up with nothing. What does that tell you about their "science"?
you sound like big tobacco when researchers started to say cigarettes could lead to cancer
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:10 pm to TigerTalker16
Welcome to the Confederacy of Dunces
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:12 pm to Gaspergou202
quote:Since he didn't answer you, I will.
Questions:
1) What did humans do to cause the climate changes?
2) What is the baseline normal climate?
3) Is it better to live in a hot or cold climate?
Finally I've been told by scientists that Earth's climate has been constantly changing since it's creation 4.5 billion years ago. Other scientists tell me that humans evolved only a few hundred thousand years ago.
Question 4) How much of the warming is natural and how much is man made?
1 - Nothing. Short of nuking half the planet man does not have the ability to seriously affect the climate, and he has no capacity to start or stop a trend. He can only marginally assist one.
2 - There isn't a true baseline. However we have what we believe to be reasonably accurate temperature history for the last 600 million years or so. The vast majority of that time the answer is "warmer than now, a lot".
3 - Hot. You have to expend too much energy for survival in cold. We are in a cool period now which is ok. The worst of the extremely recently ice age almost wiped out man completely.
4 - Nobody can agree on this. Even the most strident supporters of AGW can't even get in the same ballpark.
That alone should tell you volumes.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:14 pm to Machine
quote:
you sound like big tobacco when researchers started to say cigarettes could lead to cancer
So...ya got nothing?
That said, your analogy is bogus. There were real life, and observable examples, of the effects of smoking compared to the control group of non smokers.
What is the control group for the climate fear mongers?
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:16 pm to Dale51
quote:
So...ya got nothing?
That said, your analogy is bogus. There were real life, and observable examples, of the effects of smoking compared to the control group of non smokers.
What is the control group for the climate fear mongers?
its so coincidental that things started rising with the onset of the industrial revolution!
but pure coincidence
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Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:21 pm to Machine
quote:Because he's a charlatan fool. Did Washington perform a ""97%"" survey as well? If so link it.
You are actually citing John Cook?
more of a Haydn Washington fan but sure, why not
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:23 pm to Dick Leverage
quote:
Surely to God you are not going to die on the "climate change sanctions will stop hurricanes" hill. Or are you?
You must have come in late. I was trying to explain to that idiot that it wasn't a cat 1 when it was here. We registered 90 knots on Tybee. I dont think climate change caused hurricane matthew.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:24 pm to llfshoals
I did answer it btw
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:38 pm to Machine
You're still avoiding the question. CO2 is good for the planet. Levels in the past have shown 1000's of PPM.
Your nice chart..however muchit has been ummm..adjusted, is again just a deflection.
Again...What is the real life, observable effects, of this dangerous climate change?
Your nice chart..however muchit has been ummm..adjusted, is again just a deflection.
Again...What is the real life, observable effects, of this dangerous climate change?
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:42 pm to LSU12223
quote:
Eppur si riscalda
english please?
That's Latin darling. Apparently Iosh is an educated man. Oh now I do really hate him
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:43 pm to Machine
Nice chart. So much better than quoting that 97% Santa Claus like BS!
Now reading your chart it shows that warming began in 1700AD. And you find that coincidental to the beginning of the Industrial Revolution?! The earliest start historically given for the IR is 1760, and most historians and economists use 1820-1840. Since most of the early industries were powered by "green" renewable and non CO2 emitting water wheels, I find your coincidence not plausible. The farts of the millions of bisons out west had much more impact upon the environment than a water powered cloth loom on the East Coast.
Oh wait. I almost forgot your love of emoticons!
We aim to please.
Now reading your chart it shows that warming began in 1700AD. And you find that coincidental to the beginning of the Industrial Revolution?! The earliest start historically given for the IR is 1760, and most historians and economists use 1820-1840. Since most of the early industries were powered by "green" renewable and non CO2 emitting water wheels, I find your coincidence not plausible. The farts of the millions of bisons out west had much more impact upon the environment than a water powered cloth loom on the East Coast.
Oh wait. I almost forgot your love of emoticons!
We aim to please.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:48 pm to olddawg26
quote:
I did answer it btw
Yes you did.
Unfortunately life calls and I must leave.
I am looking forward to your reply in our thread. And will read and respond it in a few hours.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:52 pm to Gaspergou202
quote:
Was this a quiz or was there some obscure point?
Yes it was a quiz and you got it wrong.
LINK
And my point was, that models can be whatever we want them to be.
And I'm sure that's exactly what these "so-called" climate change scientists were doing.
Before they were global warming scientists. Why did they change their name?
Because now they are able to include anything and everything that changes in our weather to fit their narrative.
Before they boxed themselves in with the "warming only" hypothesis. And since no data showed significant enough warming- they changed the game. Moved the goalposts as some would say.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:53 pm to Dale51
quote:so core samples are not "real life observable effects" as you so eloquently put it ?
Again...What is the real life, observable effects, of this dangerous climate change?
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:55 pm to Gaspergou202
quote:
Now reading your chart it shows that warming began in 1700AD. And you find that coincidental to the beginning of the Industrial Revolution?! The earliest start historically given for the IR is 1760, and most historians and economists use 1820-1840. Since most of the early industries were powered by "green" renewable and non CO2 emitting water wheels, I find your coincidence not plausible. The farts of the millions of bisons out west had much more impact upon the environment than a water powered cloth loom on the East Coast.
if you secure both hands on your shoulders and firmly pull your head out of your arse, you can see that the sharp incline begins after the onset of the IR
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:56 pm to olddawg26
quote:
If you honestly wanted the answers, which I don't think you even want to listen, you could ask the professionals. Take a class
No thanks. Sounds like a big waste of money.
But I have a question for you.
How exactly do they take an annual average temperature of the entire earth?
TIA
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:56 pm to marinebioman
quote:
Yay we take 5 steps backward!
You think it is 5 steps backwards because you have your head screwed on backwards.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:58 pm to Errerrerrwere
quote:by taking core samples from around the planets?
How exactly do they take an annual average temperature of the entire earth?
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Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:58 pm to Errerrerrwere
You're still not gonna ask the people you know have answers huh.
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