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re: NBC Reporter Fears London Terror Will ‘Put Wind in the Sails’ of ‘Right-Wing Movement’

Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:40 am to
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125491 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:40 am to
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Britain won't go any further right wing than it already is

We haven't got a general election for another couple of years but it was us that started the ball rolling. UKIP gaining the third most votes in the GE led to Brexit, but Brexit was their only calling card.

They are now down their main(and only) talking point and are a party in disarray since Farage realised the same thing and stepped down. They won't have anywhere near the same showing next time.



Yep UKIP is a mess
Posted by CajunSoldier225
Member since Aug 2011
8990 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:56 am to
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workplace shootings


Workplace Violence.

Workplace shootings can be offensive.

Also, will it really surprise anyone if the London terrorist is Muslim?
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
10994 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 8:08 am to
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I agree. Laws won't stop all of it, but they can help reduce it to a certain degree. To sit by idly and not try to address the issue isn't going to help us in the long run.



You talking about immigration or gun laws?

Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147591 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 8:31 am to
I have not kept up with the UK recently. Have the gun laws been demolished? Or are they still collecting banned guns and knives? Can people only legally shoot at a gun range only with issued guns you can't leave with? How about Fox hunting or other hunting? It seems like the knife and gun laws are to no avail of helping anything.

Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 8:40 am to
I could "care" about the victims, but that wont bring them back or heal their injuries.

I think it does a disservice to victims of islamist terror to refuse to address the problem.

We have let the vague constitutional interpretations of judges over the years prevent practical solutions to problems like this. There is no clear language in the constitution that would prevent the President from banning immigration from anyone he chooses in order to protect US citizens.

Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7232 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:08 am to
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You talking about immigration or gun laws?


Both.
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:16 am to
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NBC Reporter Fears London Terror Will ‘Put Wind in the Sails’ of ‘Right-Wing Movement’


Not wanting to get shot, stabbed, exploded or run over by a vehicle is a "Right-Wing Movement" now?
Posted by TailgateTiger
Bullard, Texas
Member since Oct 2008
2183 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:19 am to
You know, the "work place violence" that happened at Fort Hood a few years ago...
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:31 am to
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It was a genuine question. I don't really hear about workplace shootings that much anymore. What narrative is pushed after workplace shootings occur? I am honestly curious.




Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7232 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:36 am to
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That's why we want zero Muslim refugees it's not rocket science



No it's not. What it is a violation of the constitution. See we have separation of church and state so it's not the govts business what religion you practice.

I swear yall are ready to trample the constitution and start a crusade over some right wing christian propoganda that filled your heads.

When you want to eradicate an entire religion you're the same as the extremists you hate. I'm pro border security to stop extremists. Im also anti ban all muslims. Why? Because they aren't mutually exclusive.

Most of our domestic terrorism is carried out by US citizens not refugees. The thing we should focus on is improving reaponses from the FBI and other intelligence agencies which have this info, and for whatever reason did not pursue them.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:45 am to
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No it's not. What it is a violation of the constitution. See we have separation of church and state so it's not the govts business what religion you practice



Nowhere in the Constitution does it mention that we must accept refugees from anywhere. And until they are actually in this country, they aren't protected under the constitution anyway.
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7232 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:52 am to
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Nowhere in the Constitution does it mention that we must accept refugees from anywhere


That is true. I don't disagree. I am saying that not allowing someone in because of their religion is a violation of our American Principles aka the constitution.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:56 am to
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That is true. I don't disagree. I am saying that not allowing someone in because of their religion is a violation of our American Principles aka the constitution.





It's not a "Muslim ban". It's a travel ban on people from specific countries. He didn't make the list either, Obama did.
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10179 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 11:36 am to
Damn there are some stupid arse people in this world. We don't have to let anyone in our country. And if they are not a citizen on the United States of America then they are not protected under the Constitution. How hard is that to understand?

Why in the hell would we want them here anyway? They are nothing like us! They believe politically and religiously different than us. They think it's ok to have sex with boys and girls. Women are property and be submissive to their husband.

I just find it baffling that any sane person would take up for them. If you have never believed in good vs evil maybe you should open your eyes and take a close look at the battle going on now.
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7232 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 11:38 am to
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It's not a "Muslim ban". It's a travel ban on people from specific countries.


When did i memtion Trump's ban? I am talking about the people here who want to "#stopislam" and stop all muslims from coming in the country.

The travel ban has its own issues. One being it ignores some of the most terrorist ridden countries and greatest threats to the US.

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He didn't make the list either, Obama did.



So Trump should just follow whatever Obama's policies were? I mean you guys blame everything on Obama, but here your basically saying it's Obama's fault because Trump can't think for himself and implement something more effective than Obama. It's a rather shitty argument.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42980 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 11:38 am to
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say that this is an issue that needs to be looked at, that needs to be examined in terms of refugees

So, we shouldn't look into terrorism, and where terrorists are possibly coming from?
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
69946 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 11:43 am to
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When did i memtion Trump's ban? I am talking about the people here who want to "#stopislam" and stop all muslims from coming in the country



I wipe my arse with Islam and all who follow it, but I'm more concerned with them bringing their shitty culture to our shores than the deity they believe in.


quote:

So Trump should just follow whatever Obama's policies were? I mean you guys blame everything on Obama, but here your basically saying it's Obama's fault because Trump can't think for himself and implement something more effective than Obama. It's a rather shitty argument.





Lol, you're all over the place. These countries are known to harbor terrorists and foster terrorism, this is not a partisan issue, or at least it shouldn't be.
This post was edited on 3/23/17 at 11:49 am
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7232 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 11:45 am to
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So, we shouldn't look into terrorism, and where terrorists are possibly coming from?


We should, but the fact of the matter is most of them are self radicalized here in the US and are natural born US citizens already.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
79079 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 11:45 am to
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Sounds like 90% of this board today. Taking a tragedy and using it to push their political narratives.
The police haven't even provided a full report and people are already using this as a means to push political narrative


This is the level of moral idiocy that is required to preserve Progressivism. Not only are we told that it is wrong to correctly identify our enemy but we are told that it is wrong to draw any logical conclusions about the enemy's motives. God forbid we actually learn the correct lesson from the murder of innocent people.

Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17068 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 11:48 am to
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No it's not. What it is a violation of the constitution. See we have separation of church and state so it's not the govts business what religion you practice.


Got a link to where the constitution says that Muslims have a right to emigrate?
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