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re: Trump proposes the most conservative budget ever presented by a chief executive.

Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:30 pm to
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35252 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:30 pm to
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By spending more on military and police?
Yes. Apparently Obama is a communist, and since this budget is the most conservative ever, yet almost the same as Obama's, then maybe Communist level spending is now conservative.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22072 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:33 pm to
I agree. I wonder if Obama had some massive one-time event in his first budget year that might have driven up his first budget. Nah, that could never have happened.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35252 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:33 pm to
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Will Trump's budget defund the organization that brought us Title IX?
Apparently not. They cut some parts, but also added 1.4 billion for school choice.

Of course, I thought the plan was to federal government out of education, and school choice was the solution. Yet, now that same solution is where they signicantly increased the government involvement?
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
12990 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:33 pm to
But but but

MEALS ON WHEELS!

For granny!!!
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:34 pm to
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A strong military is a conservative position.


funny when "conservatives" are favoring the expansion of government

the military is bureaucracy at it's finest
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32145 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:34 pm to
The Department of Education has to go. They've fricked everything up.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35252 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:34 pm to
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I agree. I wonder if Obama had some massive one-time event in his first budget year that might have driven up his first budget. Nah, that could never have happened.
Exactly. So knowing that, highlighting the decreasing deficit is not very useful in and of itself.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35252 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:36 pm to
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The Department of Education has to go. They've fricked everything up
Well that's a little exteme, but maybe this relates to the Baylor issue?

At least for K-12, it's doesn't have that much involvement besides special education and title 1.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
35118 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:36 pm to
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never fought a war
someone failed history class
Posted by tiger chaser
Birmingham Ala
Member since Feb 2008
7635 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:40 pm to
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hats ironic is when state department agents and embassy staff start dying from lack of security what are you idiots who like this budget going to say.


You mean like Hillary did ?

No where did it say they were cutting security for embassies. You can read?
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22072 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:03 pm to
Useful in pointing out that he wasn't some uberspend liberal who just wanted to waste more money every year
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:39 pm to
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Useful in pointing out that he wasn't some uberspend liberal who just wanted to waste more money every year

Not nearly as useful as you think

Depending on whether you credit 2009 to Bush, Obama's first year was relative to a baseline which included either ARRA or TARP, which came at the tail end of Bush's already steep-climbing spending. Those were HUGE baseline jumps, and Obama didn't decline much from that for a few years. He remained way above Bush's (already too steep) trend, and we're only now getting back to that

And I said spending, not deficits. Receipts have soared since 2009

Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
3237 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:50 pm to
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Obama reduced the deficit most years he was in office.



No he didn't. The deficit nearly doubled from the time Obama took office until the time he left.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:55 pm to
you mean debt
Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
4467 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:03 pm to
quote:

I wonder if Obama had some massive one-time event in his first budget year that might have driven up his first budget. Nah, that could never have happened.


Deficits

2009 - 1.4T
2010 - 1.3T
2011 - 1.3T
2012 - 1.1T

He apparently had four massive one-time events.
Posted by Canard Noir
Houston
Member since Apr 2014
1397 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:11 pm to
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Conservative Trump bitches. He is setting the bar for what the role of the federal government should be. Cutting the wasteful bloated government agencies. Time to tighten your belt beltway boys. Leftists: "The lives of our children will be devastated without Sesame Street."


I'm sorry, but a deficit neutral budget that also reduces the GDP by cutting people with jobs at the expense of Sesame Street is horse shite.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:12 pm to
When did Paul Ryan become a liberal?
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 7:52 am to
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Depending on whether you credit 2009 to Bush, Obama's first year was relative to a baseline which included either ARRA or TARP, which came at the tail end of Bush's already steep-climbing spending. Those were HUGE baseline jumps, and Obama didn't decline much from that for a few years. He remained way above Bush's (already too steep) trend, and we're only now getting back to that

And I said spending, not deficits. Receipts have soared since 2009

Oh, and for good measure, the design required to ram Obama's pet ACA through locked in increased future deficits. It also locked in forced increased state outlays on Medicaid, all else equal, until it became optional for states thanks to SCOTUS.

==> binge-spender
This post was edited on 3/17/17 at 7:54 am
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 7:58 am to
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It's really quite sad. Heard Rex Tillerson talking earlier about cutting foreign aid and trying to do more with less in the state department and he's probably being called a fascist pos by the left. It really refreshing to have business minded people running things.




Unfortunately for you and yours those "business" minded people don't have to go back to their constituency and explain where all of the pork went and ask them for their vote in the upcoming election....there is no way the GOP supports this presidents budget proposal....not a chance in hell....because to do so and throw 14 million people out of health insurance will mean a blood bath back home come election time....campaigning is one thing....governing quite another...
Posted by TuDog
Boston
Member since Jun 2005
4176 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 8:00 am to
look at the downvotes from the trolls.. sad they love big govt
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