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re: American Citizens: U.S. Border Agents Can Search Your Cellphone
Posted on 3/14/17 at 12:57 pm to AwesomeSauce
Posted on 3/14/17 at 12:57 pm to AwesomeSauce
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one sided story fits a person's narrative and global outlook to a T, chances are they only told half the story.
What about 5000 people?
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Posted on 3/14/17 at 12:59 pm to NYNolaguy1
All 5,000 reported abuse?
I think the agents ability to seize and search without a warrant is BS. That doesn't mean I buy the just walking along and Bam attacked story.
I think the agents ability to seize and search without a warrant is BS. That doesn't mean I buy the just walking along and Bam attacked story.
This post was edited on 3/14/17 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 3/14/17 at 12:59 pm to upgrayedd
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No, they don't.
What are they going to do? Hold me indefinitely until I give them my password?
If you saw the story as it played on NBC Nightly News yesterday you would know the answer is they WILL arrest you, imprison indefinitely, and then go after everything and everyone you ever knew.
They interviewed a fat, hideous, ACLU wench during the story. She confirms a 150 year USSC history of US Citizens and border agents vs Constitution and admits citizens lose every single time.
Besides, if they seize your ID's you ain't leaving the border area in either direction except in chains since you have no proof of citizenship anywhere on the planet at that point.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 12:59 pm to TH03
quote:Yep.
We could wrangle everyone up and put them in camps and it would surely catch some criminals. What's the harm? Quite a slippery slope you're trying to go out on.
Or, should cops be allowed to stop you on the streets at any time for any or no reason at all to look at your phone? frankly if this procedure catches criminals whats the harm?
How about your home, shouldn't law enforcement be allowed to come into anyone's home for any or no reason at all to search their homes? frankly if this procedure catches criminals whats the harm?
Posted on 3/14/17 at 1:00 pm to Sidicous
quote:There's most definitely certain times to fight for what you believe is right or your rights.
If you saw the story as it played on NBC Nightly News yesterday you would know the answer is they WILL arrest you, imprison indefinitely, and then go after everything and everyone you ever knew.
They interviewed a fat, hideous, ACLU wench during the story. She confirms a 150 year USSC history of US Citizens and border agents vs Constitution and admits citizens lose every single time.
Besides, if they seize your ID's you ain't leaving the border area in either direction except in chains since you have no proof of citizenship anywhere on the planet at that point.
There are other times where it's doing no good and only harm to you. This would be one of those times.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 1:01 pm to AwesomeSauce
quote:
5,000 reported abuse
They should have. Handing over your privacy at the threat of handcuffs is abuse.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 1:02 pm to Sidicous
quote:
They interviewed a fat, hideous, ACLU wench during the story. She confirms a 150 year USSC history of US Citizens and border agents vs Constitution and admits citizens lose every single time.
I'd test those waters.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 1:04 pm to upgrayedd
Easy way to deal with this, backup to cloud before you go to the airport or border. Factory wipe. Restore once you make it through.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 1:05 pm to NYNolaguy1
Posted my info on tigerdropping doesn't equal the border agents looking at my texts.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 1:05 pm to Dam Guide
quote:Easiest way. Do none of that, just give them my phone, because I'm not going to win if I don't. And I'm not going to waste my time doing all the stuff you mentioned.
Easy way to deal with this, backup to cloud before you go to the airport or border. Factory wipe. Restore once you make it through.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 1:06 pm to Nado Jenkins83
quote:Cops on the street in your town is certainly similar. Should cops on the street be allowed to stop you any time they want to see your phone?
Posted my info on tigerdropping doesn't equal the border agents looking at my texts.
frankly if this procedure catches criminals whats the harm?
This post was edited on 3/14/17 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 3/14/17 at 1:06 pm to Dam Guide
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Easy way to deal with this, backup to cloud before you go to the airport or border. Factory wipe. Restore once you make it through
Once they realize what's going on, what's to keep them from demanding access to those accounts? They could argue that the information belongs to you and by you entering the country you're essentially bringing it with you?
Before you laugh too much there have been reported instances of customs demanding Facebook access to let people in. How is that different?
Posted on 3/14/17 at 1:08 pm to shel311
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Easiest way. Do none of that, just give them my phone, because I'm not going to win if I don't. And I'm not going to waste my time doing all the stuff you mentioned.
My way takes pretty much no effort and you still give them the phone. There is nothing on the phone for them to search.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 1:08 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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Posted my info on tigerdropping doesn't equal the border agents looking at my texts.
Sure it does, in fact you made their life easier by not visiting the border. Now they don't need a warrant at all.
What do you have to lose? It's not like you're hiding something right?
How do we know you're not a criminal?
Posted on 3/14/17 at 1:09 pm to shel311
Well then I would show my phone. Which has nothing on it really. I'm even too lazy to save contacts. Makes it fun when you get a call. Could be anyone.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 1:09 pm to Dam Guide
quote:My way takes literally no effort and certainly less effort than your way and i still give them the phone.
My way takes pretty much no effort and you still give them the phone.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 1:09 pm to NYNolaguy1
quote:
Once they realize what's going on, what's to keep them from demanding access to those accounts? They could argue that the information belongs to you and by you entering the country you're essentially bringing it with you? Before you laugh too much there have been reported instances of customs demanding Facebook access to let people in. How is that different?
What account? It's a used phone I bought for a family member and we haven't set up an account.
This post was edited on 3/14/17 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 3/14/17 at 1:10 pm to Nado Jenkins83
quote:So you think cops should have that authority?
Well then I would show my phone. Which has nothing on it really. I'm even too lazy to save contacts. Makes it fun when you get a call. Could be anyone.
What about searching your home, any home they want at any time? Should they have that authority?
This post was edited on 3/14/17 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 3/14/17 at 1:10 pm to NYNolaguy1
Carry a burner phone across the border and the problem is solved.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 1:11 pm to NYNolaguy1
They gonna look at your phone porn
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