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re: Why are you where you are on immigration
Posted on 3/3/17 at 1:16 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 3/3/17 at 1:16 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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no "gotcha" coming.
Oh thank lord. Now we can answer fearlessly.
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 1:18 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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What I'm asking for you is why, in your own words, your position on immigration is where it is.
My stance is that we need to get a serious grip on illegal immigration for not only the national security potential but (primarily) for economic reasons.
Illegal immigrants pay only sales tax but are heavy users of services other taxes pay for. Just one effect of this has been seen in the Southwest where multiple ER's have had to close due to such overuse and abuse.
Another aspect of the economic issue is they take jobs that would have otherwise gone to citizens ranging from teens looking for part-time jobs to adults with little to no skills. A few years back I went through a McD's drive-through in Mobile, the guy handing out the orders at the 2nd window didn't speak English.
While there is and always will be a need for the cheap labor illegal immigration brings, we have exceeded the point of diminishing returns.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 1:18 pm to Draconian Sanctions
frick you
There are about 5 billion poor people in the world with sob stories to get them here. Let in enough and we are just another shithole
There are about 5 billion poor people in the world with sob stories to get them here. Let in enough and we are just another shithole
Posted on 3/3/17 at 1:25 pm to Draconian Sanctions
I don't want America to become less American.
We,as a Country,can't take care and protect all of our own citizens.
So,why in the f#@k would we bring in more people that will need taking care of.
Something these Pro-immigration folks need to accept is that everyone in the World doesn't have the Right to come here.
We,as a Country,can't take care and protect all of our own citizens.
So,why in the f#@k would we bring in more people that will need taking care of.
Something these Pro-immigration folks need to accept is that everyone in the World doesn't have the Right to come here.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 1:30 pm to Draconian Sanctions
I don't have a problem with immigration. I have a problem with illegal immigration.
We have a process for coming into this country. I know plenty of people who've gone thru that process to be here. It's unfair and disrespectful to them when they've worked so hard and others get a free pass.
In simplest terms, liken it to somebody cutting in front of you in line at the grocery store. I wouldn't put up with that. Neither would you.
We have a process for coming into this country. I know plenty of people who've gone thru that process to be here. It's unfair and disrespectful to them when they've worked so hard and others get a free pass.
In simplest terms, liken it to somebody cutting in front of you in line at the grocery store. I wouldn't put up with that. Neither would you.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 1:36 pm to Draconian Sanctions
You can't have a welfare,state and loose immigration policies.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 1:36 pm to Draconian Sanctions
My wife is an immigrant who did things the correct way and became a U.S. citizen. I was an immigrant to another country, taking permenant residency there before deciding to return to the U.S. So this perspective is coming from someone who has been through the workings of a couple of different immigration systems. I would like for the left and those in other nations who oppose our immigration policy to answer these questions: Illegal immigrates are people who have circumvented the system. They jumped the line, making it unfair to those who are trying to immigrate the correct way. Why should the United States forgive them with blanket amnesty? Why reward them for breaking federal laws? When did the United States lose its sovereignty? Why does the United States not have the right to enforce its immigration laws and protect its borders as it sees fit, like every other nation on the planet does? Why does the United States have to be different, just because the rest of the world says so?
The world seems pissed that we no longer want to be the milk cow of the world anymore, nor be the dumping grounds of every refugee from every Godforesaken hellhole on the planet. I'm glad the United States is reasserting its sovereignty.
The world seems pissed that we no longer want to be the milk cow of the world anymore, nor be the dumping grounds of every refugee from every Godforesaken hellhole on the planet. I'm glad the United States is reasserting its sovereignty.
This post was edited on 3/3/17 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 3/3/17 at 1:41 pm to Godfather1
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I don't have a problem with immigration. I have a problem with illegal immigration. We have a process for coming into this country.
This seems to be a popular talking point for the right.
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I know plenty of people who've gone thru that process to be here. It's unfair and disrespectful to them when they've worked so hard and others get a free pass.
Then why was it ok to include those with Green Cards and Visas in the travel ban?
Posted on 3/3/17 at 1:41 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Because the majority of immigrants to the U.S. depend on public benefits, draining our resources. If the U.S. did a merit based system like most sane countries, I'd be all for it. But as it is now, most immigrants that come here depend on us to support them.
We live in a collectivist society, it's time we started having standards like one.
We live in a collectivist society, it's time we started having standards like one.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 1:44 pm to Remote Controlled
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Then why was it ok to include those with Green Cards and Visas in the travel ban?
Why are you asking us? You think we wrote or helped write that EO? Don't be stupid.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 1:44 pm to Draconian Sanctions
I knew one Hispanic kid in high school. He is cool. We were friends. I ride to work today (same county) and see 5 Hispanics for every black and white combined. They are basically illiterate, 3rd world poor with no skill outside of labor. Honestly, if it weren't for the Dems taking advantage of their ignorance to secure easy votes, thereby completing the murder of our country, I wouldn't have a real problem with Hispanics, path to citizenship, etc.
But the REAL BOTTOM LINE- we are broke. Dead arse broke. We are borrowing money from China and giving it to non-citizens. We have poor here that could use the help. It's crazy.
But the REAL BOTTOM LINE- we are broke. Dead arse broke. We are borrowing money from China and giving it to non-citizens. We have poor here that could use the help. It's crazy.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 1:46 pm to WorkinDawg
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But the REAL BOTTOM LINE- we are broke. Dead arse broke. We are borrowing money from China and giving it to non-citizens. We have poor here that could use the help. It's crazy.
We are actually way worse than broke and I agree. We can't even feed and house our own. Let's get that in order and then help the rest of the world. We went to far with our bleeding hearts and now we can't help anyway and not go further in debt.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 1:47 pm to Remote Controlled
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This seems to be a popular talking point for the right.
It's a point everyone should have.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 1:52 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Employers break the law when they hire illegal immigrants. They should be prosecuted.
Illegal immigrants are breaking the law. I get why they want to come here. Do it the right way.
Combine these two statements and you have organized human trafficking. Human trafficking brings with it additional unlawful activities. It's a bad snowball effect.
Illegal immigrants are breaking the law. I get why they want to come here. Do it the right way.
Combine these two statements and you have organized human trafficking. Human trafficking brings with it additional unlawful activities. It's a bad snowball effect.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 1:54 pm to Remote Controlled
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Then why was it ok to include those with Green Cards and Visas in the travel ban?
Because the travel band included 7 specific countries who wouldn't, or couldn't, properly vet Green Cards or Visa's. When a bomb goes off in a theater it's not your sensitive feelings towards muslims I worry about.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 1:55 pm to Draconian Sanctions
I'd like the US to go to a points (merit) based immigration system similar to the one Canada has.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 1:55 pm to roadGator
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Why are you asking us? You think we wrote or helped write that EO? Don't be stupid
You realize that the inclusion of GC and Visa holders is the very reason the ban was overturned by the ninth right?
Just about everyone here was up in arms over that decision, so I'm surmising that you are not ok with legal immigration.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 1:57 pm to WorkinDawg
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because the travel band included 7 specific countries who wouldn't, or couldn't, properly vet Green Cards or Visa's.
We vet them, it's not the other way around.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 1:57 pm to joshnorris14
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I recognize that genetic and cultural differences are important. The Left wants to immigrate low-IQ populations that will rely on the welfare state and reliably support the Left's quest for power.
As Al Gore would say, that's an inconvenient truth.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 2:00 pm to Remote Controlled
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I don't have a problem with immigration. I have a problem with illegal immigration. We have a process for coming into this country.
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This seems to be a popular talking point for the right
Except I don't see it as a talking point. I view it as common sense. Something I'm guessing you just don't get.
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