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Photos Showing ‘Shameful’ Scenes At VA Hospital Prompt Investigation
Posted on 3/2/17 at 8:56 am
Posted on 3/2/17 at 8:56 am
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It's not hard to find stories of headaches -- and heartache -- when it comes to the VA. What makes this one different is it has pictures to go with it.
Marine veteran Stephen McMenamin and his wife, Hanna, moved to Raleigh from their home in Milwaukee a few months ago and already have amassed an armload of personal stories about long wait times at the Durham VA hospital -- both to get appointments in the first place and in the waiting room once at the hospital.
But they said it was what they saw Friday that moved them to take pictures and post them to Facebook.
"It was very upsetting," Stephen McMenamin said. He and his wife said they saw a handful of older veterans mistreated and ignored during the seven hours they were at the hospital, including an aged-veteran in a wheelchair.
"He had been sitting there for quite some time groaning and convulsing in pain," McMenamin said. "Almost to the point of where he was falling out of his wheelchair."
"He was visibly in pain," said Hanna. "And I think the thing with that that disturbed me so much was that there were people just sitting there acting like nothing was happening and he was sitting right in front of them and they were not even acknowledging that it was happening."
McMenamin says he and other patients asked if there was anything staff at the hospital could do to make the man more comfortable and were repeatedly told no.
After several hours, McMenamin says he offered the man a wheelchair he had been given.
"He sat in it for probably 15 minutes until the head nurse came around and kicked him out and said he can't do that, he can't be in that area. She was very rough with him and just completely insensitive," he said.
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McMenamin and his wife say another veteran that caught their attention was an older man who looked deathly ill coming in but also was made to wait. After multiple times trying to get comfortable and being told he could not, McMenamin says he just lay on the emergency room floor.
"He just kind of laid down and said, 'I can't get up, I won't get up. Please get me a blanket until you can see me.' "
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"The majority of the people working there were very nice to us. They were great," she added. "It's just that you have these people that don't care it seems like, and from what I've read from the comments, this is happening all over the place. You get people that just don't care for what they're doing and they feel like they can't be fired, so they just kind of get away with it. I just think it's unacceptable."
Tax dollars at work. Shameful how some of our vets are treated in this country.
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Posted on 3/2/17 at 8:59 am to NYNolaguy1
that's pretty much what all va's look like
Posted on 3/2/17 at 8:59 am to NYNolaguy1
But I'm an a-hole for wanting Vets to get better care than illegals. frick that, Vets come first.
Posted on 3/2/17 at 8:59 am to NYNolaguy1
My grandad was in and out of the VA in Tuscaloosa a good bit when he was alive. That place is downright depressing. Those people deserve better.
Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:00 am to Chad504boy
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that's pretty much what all ERs look like
FIFY
Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:02 am to Iron Lion
Having visited the Durham VA I can personally confirm it is one of the worst VA hospitals I have ever encountered.
It makes the Alexandria VA Hospital look like the Mayo Clinic
It makes the Alexandria VA Hospital look like the Mayo Clinic
Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:06 am to Tigeralum2008
quote:my grandfather was there before he passed, and it wasnt very bad at all when i went to see him. Granted he was in the alzheimer's ward. so there was constant supervision in there.
Alexandria VA Hospital
Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:12 am to NYNolaguy1
The new one in New Orleans is nice. I've only been once so I only have a single data point regarding the service, but it was a good experience.
Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:16 am to Teufelhunden
Honest question, do Vets only go to the VA?
Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:18 am to Teufelhunden
Why are there VA hospitals?? Seriously if I was President Trump I'd make an executive order today eliminating all VA hospitals within 6 months, and give every veteran the right to go to whatever hospital or doctor they want to go to. Give them the same medical insurance as members of congress or better.
Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:20 am to lynxcat
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Honest question, do Vets only go to the VA?
If they can't afford better and alot of these older guys can't.
Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:24 am to Shotgun Willie
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Seriously if I was President Trump I'd make an executive order today eliminating all VA hospitals within 6 months, and give every veteran the right to go to whatever hospital or doctor they want to go to. Give them the same medical insurance as members of congress or better.
Its not a bad idea. If you're wounded overseas or as a result of military duty, you should get govt healthcare for life.
Of course every army grunt, marine PFC, etc that trips and falls during recruit training will claim the benefit. Even so you have to wonder if that would be cheaper than operating the VA as is.
Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:25 am to Shotgun Willie
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Why are there VA hospitals?? Seriously if I was President Trump I'd make an executive order today eliminating all VA hospitals within 6 months, and give every veteran the right to go to whatever hospital or doctor they want to go to. Give them the same medical insurance as members of congress or better.
That sounds great and all but there are some very special needs Vets require such as:
1. Advanced research and care for amputees
2. PTSD treatment
3. Long term In-patient treatment for both medical and psychological issues
You might be able to privatize the VA but I wouldn't want to see it go completely away.
Having a VA hospital helps vets connect with other vets who suffer as they do.
Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:27 am to StarkRebel
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But I'm an a-hole for wanting Vets to get better care than illegals. frick that, Vets come first.
Stop sending them to wars, which ends up making them dependment on the govt.
What I thought people shouldn't be dependent on the govt!
Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:27 am to NYNolaguy1
I've seen a grown man cry because he had to go back to the VA. It's disgraceful how these places are able to treat people.
Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:28 am to NYNolaguy1
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Its not a bad idea. If you're wounded overseas or as a result of military duty, you should get govt healthcare for life.
They already do.
If you have a "Service Connected" disability, you are eligible for Tricare Prime for life as well as a medical plan administered by the VA
I believe combat related injuries are prioritized interms of receiving an evaluation from the VA for benefits.
This post was edited on 3/2/17 at 9:28 am
Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:28 am to NYNolaguy1
As we say, "go into a VA, never come out the same"
Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:28 am to StrongSafety
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Stop sending them to wars, which ends up making them dependment on the govt.
What I thought people shouldn't be dependent on the govt!
You're out of your element here. Go back to race baiting somewhere.
Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:29 am to Chad504boy
Anytime you have government employees they are going to basically not give a damn. It's a shame the lack of vetting we do hiring 90% of government employees most aren't worth the paper they wipe their arse with
Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:32 am to NYNolaguy1
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Shameful how some of our vets are treated in this country.
Shameful doesn't even come close to describing it. It's fricking bull shite the way our government treats the men and women that put their life on the line for their country. I guess it's not surprising when you consider the big money politicians who could give a frick. The treatment of our vets fricking pisses me off to no end.
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