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re: Industry expert says one third of U.S. ski resorts to shutter

Posted on 2/25/17 at 12:33 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 12:33 pm to
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Believe me I did loads of research and found much better ski prices in Banff and other areas but getting a family of 6 round trip to other areas was 4 times more than round trip to Denver from New Orleans


It's am expensive endeavor if you don't live out West or in the NE. It's better to combine it with other events and make a vacation out of it than just making a ski trip.

I've got a place about 15 minutes from the house, we also heli ski here. Now that's expensive.
Posted by BigD13
French Settlement La
Member since Sep 2013
2513 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 12:33 pm to
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probably passed you in the lodge.


I was guy in LSU gear giving the Aggies a hard time for losing to fricking Kansas in their bowl game.
Aggie tears everywhere
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56244 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 12:37 pm to
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It's better to combine it with other events and make a vacation out of it than just making a ski trip.


I completely agree with this. My preference is to visit the resort towns during the summer when lodging prices are cheaper. I like to ride the lift up the mountain and mountain bike down. Also spend time fly fishing, horseback riding, etc.
Posted by LSUsuperfresh
Member since Oct 2010
8338 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 12:47 pm to
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Why do you get yours waived?


Implying that he has loads of money and that Vegas caters to him. He's acting sincerely outraged/mystified but really he just wants you to know that he is separate from the common folk.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
63015 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 12:54 pm to
The reason ski resorts are closing is because millennials are not adventurous. They'd rather click on their phones than get outside. Let alone be cold on a ski lift.
Pricing is part of it, but hey, I, and everyone else was paying $50/ day for lift tickets in the 1990's. $100/ day now isn't such a stretch.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58178 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 1:04 pm to
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It has gotten wayyyy too expensive.


This.

I was up in Colorado to visit family this Christmas and was floored at how expensive it's become.
This post was edited on 2/25/17 at 1:12 pm
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58178 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 1:09 pm to
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Pricing is part of it, but hey, I, and everyone else was paying $50/ day for lift tickets in the 1990's. $100/ day now isn't such a stretch.


You aren't going to get a pass for $100 at any of the bigger ski mountains in Colorado during peak season. If you want to ski Vail/Beaver Creek/Breckenridge/Keystone it's right around $200 on the weekends for a day pass.

This post was edited on 2/25/17 at 1:14 pm
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
99897 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 1:12 pm to
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The reason ski resorts are closing is because millennials are not adventurous. They'd rather click on their phones than get outside. Let alone be cold on a ski lift.


Oh that's some bullshite. Sure, like any generation, there's a portion that isn't into the "outdoors". But majority of the people these days that are using our parks (especially National Parks) are millennials.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32145 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 1:12 pm to
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Pricing is part of it, but hey, I, and everyone else was paying $50/ day for lift tickets in the 1990's. $100/ day now isn't such a stretch.


Middle America had more disposable income in the 1990s.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263210 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 1:17 pm to
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". But majority of the people these days that are using our parks (especially National Parks) are millennials.


Well, that's not really correct.

LINK

The average age is creeping up and is probably around 50 nationwide. The number of younger visitors is far below what it was decades ago.

Posted by dsides
Member since Jan 2013
5450 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 1:39 pm to
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completely agree with this. My preference is to visit the resort towns during the summer when lodging prices are cheaper. I like to ride the lift up the mountain and mountain bike down. Also spend time fly fishing, horseback riding, etc.


100% agree with this. People initially go for the winter and skiiing but fall in love with the summers.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12502 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 1:48 pm to
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Agreed. It wasn't long ago that Vegas was one of the cheapest vacations you could take. Cheap airfare, cheap accommodations, cheap food. It's almost cheaper to go to the Bahamas now


Agreed, Vegas is incredibly overrated.

I've gone twice on vacation and twice for business conferences and the whole "cheap food, cheap accommodations, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas" thing is a complete myth. Everything is incredibly expensive. The bar maids bring you a drink like once every hour. Every casino on the strip is virtually the same inside save for thematic differences.
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19239 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 1:49 pm to
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Yet I only go once or twice a year because its too expensive. Lift tickets $75 for one day. I don't buy my own skiis because I don't go enough to justify the expense. So I rent skiis there and thats another $50

75 for a lift ticket? I wish I could get that. Mammoth mountain is 149 on a peak Saturday this year.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263210 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 1:59 pm to
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75 for a lift ticket? I wish I could get that. Mammoth mountain is 149 on a peak Saturday this year.


$46/$51 here. Half day is $39
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
63015 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 2:16 pm to
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using our parks (especially National Parks) are millennials.


Well, that's not really correct.

LINK

The average age is creeping up and is probably around 50 nationwide. The number of younger visitors is far below what it was decades ago.


So, I am correct. It is clear that the younger generation just doesn't go outside as much as in the past.
When I was young, there wasn't anything to do inside except watch reruns on TV.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263210 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 2:28 pm to
Yeah, I think the Millennial generation has been programmed to pursue cultural experiences rather than natural experiences. It's a generalization, but it seems to be playing out. I've noticed more of a disdain for anything rural, or outdoors. I think in addition to skiing, you'll find most outdoor activities among this group is dropping including hunting/fishing.
Posted by kmcmah1
Member since Mar 2009
1076 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 2:30 pm to
I know what you're trying to say, but you failed miserably.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32145 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 2:32 pm to
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Yeah, I think the Millennial generation has been programmed to pursue cultural experiences rather than natural experiences. It's a generalization, but it seems to be playing out. I've noticed more of a disdain for anything rural, or outdoors.


They are buried in student loan debt. Golfing or skiing is not easy for them to do.

The hipster trend of second hand clothes, thrift shopping, and "on the edge" neighborhoods were not started to be a trend. It was started out of necessity for affordable living in the era of under-employment. It has since become a trend.
Posted by buffbraz
Member since Nov 2005
5680 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 2:35 pm to
Skiing is one of the most fun things to do in the world but it is too expensive....
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263210 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 2:42 pm to

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They are buried in student loan debt. Golfing or skiing is not easy for them to do.
The average student debt is about like a low priced car loan. I think there's more to it than just cost.
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