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CPAC crazy talk : alt-right is not right like us, they're actually leftists
Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:41 pm
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alt-right is not right like us, they're actually leftists
"denounces-alt-right-as-left-wing-fascist-group"
alt-right is not right like us, they're actually leftists
"denounces-alt-right-as-left-wing-fascist-group"
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:43 pm to GFaceKillah
CPAC is the baby. Alt right is the bathwater.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:43 pm to CelticDog
Leftism is bad, therefore bad things are leftist. It's basic logic!
Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:43 pm to CelticDog
CPAC isn't right either. Those are all Establishment Cucks.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:45 pm to CelticDog
Alt right is a make believe division that makes it easy for someone who needs a convenient devil to blame evil upon.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:46 pm to CelticDog
That sounds like George Will talk to me, and as Dobbs pointed out on O'Reilly last night, George Will is spouting the same talking points as Head Clown Chuck Schumer these days.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:48 pm to Seldom Seen
They got Trump elected. Kellyanne Conway is the reason he got elected.
Bannon maybe on the Trump train, but without Kellyanne HRC is president.
Bannon maybe on the Trump train, but without Kellyanne HRC is president.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:49 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:It's a media invention.
Alt right is a make believe division that makes it easy for someone who needs a convenient devil to blame evil upon.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:54 pm to CelticDog
Hmmmm. This sounds like the establishment GOP trying to undermine its biggest threat to its stranglehold on the Republican Party.
The so called alt-right is mainly just the younger generation of conservatives. Something the GOP should embrace provided no white supremacy ideology is involved.
The so called alt-right is mainly just the younger generation of conservatives. Something the GOP should embrace provided no white supremacy ideology is involved.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:55 pm to DonChowder
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It's a media invention
Y'all don't really believe that, right?
That the alt right isn't really a thing?
Posted on 2/23/17 at 1:11 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Alt right is a make believe division that makes it easy for someone who needs a convenient devil to blame evil upon.
To me it's more like:
RINO or Trumpsessed - John McCain, Rick Wilson. People who are either moderate Democrats or they're so fricked up about Trump they can't see straight.
Establishment - Normal, ranging from entrenched people who don't want to rock the boat to people who actually try but value the traditional GOP (Paul Ryan)
Average Trump Supporter - Can be mixed with establishment, want to try something new, voted for Trump because of lack of better options or modest interest in his persona/ideas
Ardent Trump Supporter - Most of this board, reluctant to criticize Trump, bought into cult of personality but otherwise inoffensive
"Alt-Right" - Rants about white genocide, may not be full blown white supremacist, but a lot of racial anger. Usually these types have their hand out in a populist, "give me the money, not those dirty immigrants!" way.
Trolling Alt Right - Nihilist nerds without much ideological concern at all, they found a home in the Trump campaign and an enemy in MSM and the hard left.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 1:21 pm to CelticDog
The alt-right is like the racist uncle of the GOP. You tell people in public that he's just crazy but secretively you admire him.
I'm not saying all Rep are racist but all the racist people in my family are Republicans.
I'm not saying all Rep are racist but all the racist people in my family are Republicans.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 1:33 pm to Seldom Seen
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CPAC isn't right either. Those are all Establishment Cucks.
Lolz
Posted on 2/23/17 at 1:34 pm to LSUcjb318
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I'm not saying all Rep are racist but all the racist people in my family are Republicans.
No one is surprised your lineage is trash.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 1:36 pm to CelticDog
I don't know what they are, but this is the problem with reducing complex ideologies into a single, linear continuum AND then further reducing it into the binary "left vs. right."
This was no more obvious than when this board a number of discussions regarding the categorization of fascism as "right wing." Fascism does typically value many right wing principles (Nationalism, maintaining social structures and hierarchies, private property, anti-communism, etc.), BUT it also seems absurd to place communism and fascism at complete opposite sides of the spectrum when in practice the diffences are hardly noticeable due to the authoritarian nature.
Here was see it in the Democratic party (liberals vs. progressives vs. Socialists), and maybe even moreso in the GOP (libertarians vs. neoconservatives vs. social conservatives vs. all-right). Not only does it the complicate things within a party some ideologies have left and right wing values (libertarians).
This all highlights the fundamental problems with a two party system, expecially in the Internet age, where people can be exposed to more principles and ideologies. I think having varying ideologies is great, especially since it exposes ideas and let's people find their niche.
However, those benefits are lost when we reduce those ideologies to the two parties. I really wish we had a multi-party system. And although coalitions of a multi-party system may look similar to our current system in practice, I think it would at least allow for more diverse views ideas, allow people to feel better about their political affiliation and support (instead of lesser of two evils), incentivize politicians to find common ground, and give voters more value, especially in the partisan states.
This was no more obvious than when this board a number of discussions regarding the categorization of fascism as "right wing." Fascism does typically value many right wing principles (Nationalism, maintaining social structures and hierarchies, private property, anti-communism, etc.), BUT it also seems absurd to place communism and fascism at complete opposite sides of the spectrum when in practice the diffences are hardly noticeable due to the authoritarian nature.
Here was see it in the Democratic party (liberals vs. progressives vs. Socialists), and maybe even moreso in the GOP (libertarians vs. neoconservatives vs. social conservatives vs. all-right). Not only does it the complicate things within a party some ideologies have left and right wing values (libertarians).
This all highlights the fundamental problems with a two party system, expecially in the Internet age, where people can be exposed to more principles and ideologies. I think having varying ideologies is great, especially since it exposes ideas and let's people find their niche.
However, those benefits are lost when we reduce those ideologies to the two parties. I really wish we had a multi-party system. And although coalitions of a multi-party system may look similar to our current system in practice, I think it would at least allow for more diverse views ideas, allow people to feel better about their political affiliation and support (instead of lesser of two evils), incentivize politicians to find common ground, and give voters more value, especially in the partisan states.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 1:37 pm to LSUcjb318
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I'm not saying all Rep are racist but all the racist people in my family are Republicans
Sounds like you have terrible genes.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 1:41 pm to Iosh
quote:I'm just gonna pretend all the upvotes are people appreciating my sarcasm.
Leftism is bad, therefore bad things are leftist. It's basic logic!
Posted on 2/23/17 at 1:48 pm to LSUcjb318
quote:Assuming you live in the south, don't you think that maybe "all the racists are Republicans" is more of a function of "there are a lot more Republicans?"
The alt-right is like the racist uncle of the GOP. You tell people in public that he's just crazy but secretively you admire him.
I'm not saying all Rep are racist but all the racist people in my family are Republicans.
If you are in the south, and you've reached that conclusion, then you've provided a great example of the "Problem of Induction."
And in developmental psychology, your logic would probably put you at the concrete operational stage, which is typically the stage children between 7 and 11 are functioning at.
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