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Even the NY Times recognizes that liberal's antics are helping Trump
Posted on 2/20/17 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 2/20/17 at 5:31 pm
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Jeffrey Medford, a small-business owner in South Carolina, voted reluctantly for Donald Trump. As a conservative, he felt the need to choose the Republican. But some things are making him feel uncomfortable — parts of Mr. Trump’s travel ban, for example, and the recurring theme of his apparent affinity for Russia.
Mr. Medford should be a natural ally for liberals trying to convince the country that Mr. Trump was a bad choice. But it is not working out that way. Every time Mr. Medford dips into the political debate — either with strangers on Facebook or friends in New York and Los Angeles — he comes away feeling battered by contempt and an attitude of moral superiority.
“We’re backed into a corner,” said Mr. Medford, 46, whose business teaches people to be filmmakers. “There are at least some things about Trump I find to be defensible. But they are saying: ‘Agree with us 100 percent or you are morally bankrupt. You’re an idiot if you support any part of Trump.’ ”
He added: “I didn’t choose a side. They put me on one.”
Liberals may feel energized by a surge in political activism, and a unified stance against a president they see as irresponsible and even dangerous. But that momentum is provoking an equal and opposite reaction on the right. In recent interviews, conservative voters said they felt assaulted by what they said was a kind of moral Bolshevism — the belief that the liberal vision for the country was the only right one. Disagreeing meant being publicly shamed.
Protests and righteous indignation on social media and in Hollywood may seem to liberals to be about policy and persuasion. But moderate conservatives say they are having the opposite effect, chipping away at their middle ground and pushing them closer to Mr. Trump.
“The name calling from the left is crazy,” said Bryce Youngquist, 34, who works in sales for a tech start-up in Mountain View, Calif., a liberal enclave where admitting you voted for Mr. Trump is a little like saying in the 1950s that you were gay. “They are complaining that Trump calls people names, but they turned into some mean people.”
Mr. Youngquist stayed in the closet for months about his support for Mr. Trump. He did not put a bumper sticker on his car, for fear it would be keyed. The only place he felt comfortable wearing his Make America Great Again hat was on a vacation in China. Even dating became difficult. Many people on Tinder have a warning on their profile: “Trump supporters swipe left” — meaning, get lost.
He came out a few days before the election. On election night, a friend posted on Facebook, “You are a disgusting human being.”
file this one in the 'even a broken clock is right twice a day' file
Posted on 2/20/17 at 5:33 pm to L.A.
Still Fake News. Still failing.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 5:36 pm to L.A.
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“The name calling from the left is crazy,” said Bryce Youngquist, 34, who works in sales for a tech start-up in Mountain View, Calif., a liberal enclave where admitting you voted for Mr. Trump is a little like saying in the 1950s that you were gay.
Spot on. Normal everyday Dems are disassociating with friends and family because of who they voted for. Sad!
Posted on 2/20/17 at 5:40 pm to L.A.
Without even looking, I will bet my next paycheck that the balance of comments at the bottom of this article are crucifying him.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 5:47 pm to Ag Zwin
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Even the NY Times recognizes that liberal's antics are helping Trump by Ag Zwin Without even looking, I will bet my next paycheck that the balance of comments at the bottom of this article are crucifying him.
I don't even think the New York Times editors agree with the premise of the article. They will publish one of these for 50 of the other type to give the impression that there actually balanced. They like the protests just the way they are.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 6:34 pm to NIH
quote:Yeah, I've never seen anything like it
Spot on. Normal everyday Dems are disassociating with friends and family because of who they voted for. Sad!
Posted on 2/20/17 at 6:47 pm to NIH
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Normal everyday Dems are disassociating with friends and family because of who they voted for. Sad!
There is nothing normal or everyday about the ones dumping their friends because they voted for Trump. These cucks have lost their ever-loving minds.
They are so loud and obnoxious that the press covers them non-stop, and it appears that there are more of them than there really are. Even in Portland, the majority of folks are turning on them, because the same small group of crazies just won't stop.
I think the majority of Democrats are starting to become embarrassed.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 9:27 pm to Jax-Tiger
quote:I haven't see that yet, but then again I live in California. I hope you are right.
I think the majority of Democrats are starting to become embarrassed.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 9:44 pm to L.A.
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Mrs. O’Connell is a registered Democrat. She voted for Bill Clinton twice. But she has drifted away from the party over what she said was a move from its middle-class economic roots toward identity politics.
quote:I fricking love hearing this!
“The Democratic Party has changed so much that I don’t even recognize it anymore,” she said. “These people are destroying our democracy. They are scarier to me than these Islamic terrorists. I feel absolutely disgusted with them and their antics. It strengthens people’s resolve in wanting to support President Trump. It really does.”
Posted on 2/20/17 at 11:06 pm to NIH
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Spot on. Normal everyday Dems are disassociating with friends and family because of who they voted for. Sad!
I guess I'm guilty of this. There is NO WAY I would associate with anyone or be friends with anyone that voted for Trump. I know a few people that I think may have voted for him but we don't discuss politics because it would end our friendship if that did come out.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 11:13 pm to Toddy
people who put politics over friendships are truly some of the worst personalities I've ever encountered
This post was edited on 2/20/17 at 11:14 pm
Posted on 2/20/17 at 11:17 pm to Toddy
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because it would end our friendship if that did come out.
Wow
Bigot
Posted on 2/20/17 at 11:19 pm to L.A.
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Even the NY Times recognizes that liberal's antics are helping Trump by L.A. quote: I think the majority of Democrats are starting to become embarrassed. I haven't see that yet, but then again I live in California. I hope you are right.
Work your way up to apple valley. You will see ;)
Posted on 2/20/17 at 11:28 pm to Tiguar
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people who put politics over friendships are truly some of the worst personalities I've ever encountered
Normally I would agree with you but this is different.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 11:30 pm to Toddy
The left is having their moral majority era. Watching them crash and burn is glorious
Posted on 2/20/17 at 11:43 pm to Toddy
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Normally I would agree with you but this is different.
And this is why you lost. And why you will continue losing until you understand the ramifications of your views.
The majority wants equal rights for all Americans, the majority wants fair trade, the majority wants lower taxes, the majority wants a strong national defense, the majority wants etc. etc.
When the left finally realizes that identity politics is a losing strategy, it'll be to late. They've gone to far left. The right has pushed their right wing out and moved away from social issues which are a total loser for the right.
If you had a true fiscal conservative and social liberal that would unabashedly pronounce those two positions, he or she would be unstoppable if they ran a halfway decent campaign.
This post was edited on 2/20/17 at 11:45 pm
Posted on 2/20/17 at 11:51 pm to Toddy
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I guess I'm guilty of this. There is NO WAY I would associate with anyone or be friends with anyone that voted for Trump. I know a few people that I think may have voted for him but we don't discuss politics because it would end our friendship if that did come out.
It takes a stunning dearth of character to feel that way and admit it.
Posted on 2/21/17 at 12:11 am to Toddy
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There is NO WAY I would associate with anyone or be friends with anyone that voted for Trump. I know a few people that I think may have voted for him but we don't discuss politics because it would end our friendship if that did come out.
Did people end friendships with you when you came out? How did that make you feel? This line of thinking by you makes you no better than the homophobes you rail against everyday on here. I don't know you at all but I know I would dislike you as a person and it has nothing to do with you being gay, it has to do with your narrow mindedness, that makes you an ugly human and you should be ashamed of yourself.
Posted on 2/21/17 at 12:12 am to Tigerlaff
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It takes a stunning dearth of character to feel that way and admit it.
It takes a bigot.
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