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re: Am I right to think that the GOP establishment isn't going to repeal ACA?
Posted on 2/19/17 at 8:17 pm to baobabtiger
Posted on 2/19/17 at 8:17 pm to baobabtiger
Gop lobbyist and donors make billions from obamacare.
Can you logically explain why they would want to stop it?
Can you logically explain why they would want to stop it?
Posted on 2/19/17 at 8:20 pm to baobabtiger
I think once you realize that Mitt Romney was the architect of Obamacare then everything starts to make sense.
Posted on 2/19/17 at 8:27 pm to baobabtiger
Remember when Trump said "Single payer has worked in Canada and it has worked incredibly well in Scotland."
Posted on 2/19/17 at 8:52 pm to baobabtiger
Obamacare mainly benefits large corporations with a large unskilled workforce. These folks can now be kicked off of the company insurance.
The lower skilled are up next...followed by the high skilled.
Obamacare is a bill for the corporation, by the corporation. Which is why it won't be repealed quickly, if ever.
The lower skilled are up next...followed by the high skilled.
Obamacare is a bill for the corporation, by the corporation. Which is why it won't be repealed quickly, if ever.
This post was edited on 2/19/17 at 9:27 pm
Posted on 2/19/17 at 8:54 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
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I think once you realize that Mitt Romney was the architect of Obamacare then everything starts to make sense.
The problem now is that healthcare is 18% of GDP so the forces that will be on either side of the winners and losers equation are very powerful.
Trump learned this with his pulling back on allowing Medicare to negotiate drug prices. Subsequently adapting industry talking points that have their own winners and losers.
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Heck one of the most bi-partisan economic ideas conceptually is to pull back on the employer tax credit because it is regressive and distorts the market. The very idea that Republicans may flip and start supporting this repeal again has led to many businesses freaking out already and that will only amplify:
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Go on down to the proposals to block grant Medicaid and you have not just Democrats, but Republican governors clawing back because such block grants that only offer a set amount without tying it to any metrics would make them vulnerable to shocks(like natural disasters or recessions) that would increase the programs usage and push the states into tough situations of begging congress, raising taxes, or cutting major programs. And the push back is coming from Republican governors in key Trump states like Michigan and Ohio:
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Healthcare policy is a landmine field and no comprehensive reform is going to come without meaningful trade offs or concessions that often come at the average consumers expense(thus opening themselves up to charges of corruption/failing the American people) and pissing off very powerful business interest groups that have traditionally won the propaganda war in past battles.
This post was edited on 2/19/17 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 2/19/17 at 10:40 pm to PhoenixLSUTiger
Nope just know the game.
Posted on 2/19/17 at 11:08 pm to baobabtiger
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Looking at how it's going it seems to me that the lobbiests have paid off the establishment. Am I right in thinking it will never happen?
Well, I hope they can get jobs with those lobbiests because if they don't get rid of Obamacare now, they will be finding their asses the hell out of congress.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 1:43 am to baobabtiger
somebody doesn't pay attention
Posted on 2/20/17 at 2:02 am to ChexMix
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Trump has said multiple times they are going to repeal and replace the ACA
You are wrong to think any different.
Blindly believing a politicians words. History seems to show that doesn't work out too well. Until it's a done deal not safe to assume it will/can get done for sure. Revising a federal healthczre bill will be a long road ahead.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 2:03 am to baobabtiger
Trying to figure how to message kicking millions of people off of Health Insurance.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 2:35 am to texashorn
quote:You got a link on this quote?
Trump said the other day that his preference was to allow it to collapse on its own, but Congress prefers "repeal and replace," which is nothing but a campaign slogan which will never come to fruition.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 2:41 am to ChexMix
Baseline:
The GOP establishment has no loyalty to Mr. Trump. Their base craopped all over them to elect him. The old DC paradigm is up in the air. We'll have to see what shakes out.
The GOP establishment has no loyalty to Mr. Trump. Their base craopped all over them to elect him. The old DC paradigm is up in the air. We'll have to see what shakes out.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 2:46 am to baobabtiger
I think they're going to "fix" it more than replace it. I don't know how they're going to spin this to the base, though.
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