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re: Government issued Voter Identification
Posted on 2/13/17 at 12:24 pm to BamaAtl
Posted on 2/13/17 at 12:24 pm to BamaAtl
quote:having the wherewithal to obtain a free voter ID and actually successfully cast a vote should be considered the minimum voting intelligence test. If you can't manage to obtain a free Id card within 2 years you dont really want to vote, nor should you be able to because you are beyond pathetic.
Not when the 'free ID' is specifically planned around making it harder for minorities to obtain.
Not when the precursor documents are not free.
Welcome to the discussion, you're uninformed.
This post was edited on 2/13/17 at 12:28 pm
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 12:25 pm to KaiserSoze99
quote:
Who are these black people who don't have a birth certificate and social security card? How did this happen?
Lost? Are you under the false impression that you can just get a new one for free?
Or change the name on them if the name doesn't match the name on your ID?
Posted on 2/13/17 at 12:26 pm to narddogg81
quote:
should be considered the minimum voting intelligence test
We have a Constitutional amendment specifically prohibiting what you're calling for here.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 12:35 pm to narddogg81
I'm all for minimum intelligence tests to vote as well.
If you don't know anything at all about government you shouldn't be voting.
If you are a long term welfare moocher with 9 kids then I lean toward restricting your voting rights too.
If you don't know anything at all about government you shouldn't be voting.
If you are a long term welfare moocher with 9 kids then I lean toward restricting your voting rights too.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 12:35 pm to BamaAtl
quote:really, which one? 15th amendment pertains to race and condition of former servitude, 19th is about sex, 24th abolished the poll tax, 26th lowered the voting age to 18. Are you trying to contend that a free voting Id is tantamount to a poll tax?
We have a Constitutional amendment specifically prohibiting what you're calling for here.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 12:43 pm to BamaAtl
quote:
Not when the 'free ID' is specifically planned around making it harder for minorities to obtain.
Not when the precursor documents are not free.
Welcome to the discussion, you're uninformed.
How is it harder for minorities to obtain? Please explain why you think they aren't capable of obtaining an ID. Do you think they aren't smart enough?
Please explain your racist position.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 12:52 pm to narddogg81
quote:I honestly think this issue, is more about state vs. federal power in the regulation of elections. Furthermore, to the extent that the federal government could institute a voter ID, at least for presidential elections, I don't think the president would have the power to institute one via an EO.
really, which one? 15th amendment pertains to race and condition of former servitude, 19th is about sex, 24th abolished the poll tax, 26th lowered the voting age to 18. Are you trying to contend that a free voting Id is tantamount to a poll tax?
Posted on 2/13/17 at 12:53 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
quote:
We need to have a nationwide database of all US citizens
Nanny state, here we come.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 1:01 pm to BamaAtl
quote:
Lost?
Seriously?
How much does a birth certificate and social security card cost? An adult that has never obtained a driver's license and has lost other identifying documents calls into question his or her lawful presence in the United States. Such a person has WAY MORE to be concerned about than being allowed to vote.
This is such a non-issue. The real issue is that one side wants to allow illegal Mexicans to vote, and black people to vote 3-4 times to overthrow whitey's power. Admit it.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 1:04 pm to sms151t
quote:in California, illegal immigrants are automatically registered to vote with purchase of drivers license. You ok with that?
They already have these things, they are called Drivers license and state ID.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 1:10 pm to AuburnTigers
quote:Although illegal immigrants do get registered to vote, I believe they're only supposed to register citizens.
in California, illegal immigrants are automatically registered to vote with purchase of drivers license. You ok with that?
This post was edited on 2/13/17 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 2/13/17 at 1:12 pm to KaiserSoze99
quote:But what if they claim to identify as a well tanned Cuban?
...and no black people are allowed to apply.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 1:16 pm to ChexMix
I disagree with nationalizing elections...
No national ID cards, no registries...
Just my humble opinion...
Big brother is big enough
No national ID cards, no registries...
Just my humble opinion...
Big brother is big enough
Posted on 2/13/17 at 1:29 pm to ChexMix
The congress and senate should try to pass natiknal legislation. I don't believe this is something a president can do through EO but I'm also getting tired of presidents (both Obama and trump) ruling through EO's
Posted on 2/13/17 at 2:21 pm to narddogg81
quote:
Are you trying to contend that a free voting Id is tantamount to a poll tax?
Are you trying to contend that forcing someone to pay for an ID to vote isn't a poll tax?
Posted on 2/13/17 at 2:22 pm to Dead End
quote:
How is it harder for minorities to obtain?
Please do a bit of research, there's a link posted earlier in the thread. Thanks.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 2:23 pm to KaiserSoze99
quote:
How much does a birth certificate and social security card cost
How much should it cost before it's a poll tax?
quote:
This is such a non-issue.
I agree 100%. In-person voting fraud is a non-issue, and any attempt to 'prevent' it is just voter suppression by another name. Thanks for agreeing with me!
Posted on 2/13/17 at 2:24 pm to BamaAtl
Ahh, the old "birth certificate" excuse raises its head again.
We don't honor birth certificates from Old Mexico, comprende?
We don't honor birth certificates from Old Mexico, comprende?
Posted on 2/13/17 at 2:35 pm to texashorn
quote:
We don't honor birth certificates from Old Mexico, comprende?
What about from South Carolina? Illinois?
Oh, right, you're just being racist.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 2:52 pm to ChexMix
Very hard to pass a national voter ID.
Would probably require a constitutional amendment.
The constitution is very clear about elections being run by the States.
Would probably require a constitutional amendment.
The constitution is very clear about elections being run by the States.
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