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re: Republicans push carbon tax in meeting with trump
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:10 am to CptBengal
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:10 am to CptBengal
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They can essentially tax you for breathing
Knowing Congress they'll pass a tax on the number of "carbon-dioxide reduction devices" one owns.
So both my trees and all my bushes will be taxed. On my lawn, will they assess per blade of grass or one flat rate for the front yard and one for the back? And if a tree dies during the year, can I get a refund?
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:12 am to CptBengal
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They can essentially tax you for breathing
If the Progs have it their way, one day we will all be hooked up to capnography devices and each quarter assessed for the amount of CO2 we emit into the atmosphere.
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 10:13 am
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:13 am to DownSouthJukin
None of these dystopian scenarios have taken place in countries that already have a carbon tax.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:15 am to Iosh
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None of these dystopian scenarios have taken place in countries that already have a carbon tax.
Yet.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:16 am to DownSouthJukin
Well then when they do I'll start objecting to it. Until then this is stupid slippery slope stuff along the lines of "every tax increase => communism!"
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:16 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Bunch of garbage nonsense. I hope Trump doesn't fall in line with this crap.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:17 am to Iosh
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None of these dystopian scenarios have taken place in countries that already have a carbon tax.
Creating a carbon tax is a dystopian scenario.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:18 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Only if this abolishes and replaces the income tax.
Basically it's a fancy sales tax.
Basically it's a fancy sales tax.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:19 am to Iosh
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Well then when they do I'll start objecting to it. Until then this is stupid slippery slope stuff along the lines of "every tax increase => communism!"
It'll be too late, then.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:21 am to imjustafatkid
Actual footage of Vancouver after BC implemented their carbon tax: LINK
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 10:22 am
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:22 am to Iosh
I never understood why republicans didn't use the carbon tax to implement something like a fair tax. You could sell it to the left as an AGW initiative, and to the right as tax reform.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:22 am to skrayper
quote:Ding ding
FFS - the EPA is better than this approach. All this means is "pollute all you want, pass on those additional costs to your customers".
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:25 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Trump is exposing what we've all known. There's zero difference between the left and the so called right. it's all about putting money in their own pockets.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:25 am to Hawkeye95
quote:The problem is that in order to replace the entire income tax the carbon tax would have to be insanely punitive, even more so than the most pessimistic social-cost-of-carbon estimates.
I never understood why republicans didn't use the carbon tax to implement something like a fair tax. You could sell it to the left as an AGW initiative, and to the right as tax reform.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:26 am to Iosh
yeah alternative tax plans are always rough b/c people don't really realize just how much they pay in taxes already
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:27 am to skrayper
quote:Hint: ithe goals isn't really curbing pollution. The goal is more money and influence for government.
FFS - the EPA is better than this approach. All this means is "pollute all you want, pass on those additional costs to your customers". Like I have an option as to who my power company is.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:28 am to SlowFlowPro
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yeah alternative tax plans are always rough b/c people don't really realize just how much they pay in taxes already
If anyone really wants to get tax reform through, they should remove the part of the code that requires employers to deduct income taxes for their employees. Fast forward to the next April 15th, and we would never see another tax increase suggested.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:31 am to Iosh
quote:Not if you don't tax the carbon for a problem which doesn't exist.
The problem is that in order to replace the entire income tax the carbon tax would have to be insanely punitive, even more so than the most pessimistic social-cost-of-carbon estimates.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:32 am to Iosh
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The problem is that in order to replace the entire income tax the carbon tax would have to be insanely punitive, even more so than the most pessimistic social-cost-of-carbon estimates.
well it would have to be somewhat complicated formula for it to work including taxing certain things at a higher rate.
But it would be a way to get tax reform through, and satisfy the left.
I read an economist article on this like 10 years ago, I will see if I can dig it up.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:33 am to imjustafatkid
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If anyone really wants to get tax reform through, they should remove the part of the code that requires employers to deduct income taxes for their employees. Fast forward to the next April 15th, and we would never see another tax increase suggested.
I think the problem with that is the country would go broke, as most people I know don't keep $10-15k sitting around in checking.
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