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re: The travel ban EO is done. It's over. Time to learn from it and move on.
Posted on 2/4/17 at 9:34 am to Ag Zwin
Posted on 2/4/17 at 9:34 am to Ag Zwin
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Where does the EO cite Muslims?
Where it bans citizens from Muslim-majority countries and includes a specific exception for religious minorities...in Muslim-majority countries.
Are you pretending you don't understand this, or are you really that slow?
Posted on 2/4/17 at 9:39 am to BamaAtl
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Where it bans citizens from Muslim-majority countries and includes a specific exception for religious minorities...in Muslim-majority countries.
Are you pretending you don't understand this, or are you really that slow?
A "ban" that doesn't touch 1.4 billion out of 1.5 billion of a group is not a "ban" of the group.
Your post is idiocy, indicative of a basic lack of understanding of the English language. Is English your first language?
Seriously, I do not know how this country is going to battle the willful stupidity rampant within it.
Posted on 2/4/17 at 9:44 am to BamaAtl
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Where it bans citizens from Muslim-majority countries and includes a specific exception for religious minorities...in Muslim-majority countries.
Are you pretending you don't understand this, or are you really that slow?
Interesting lack of a citation here!
Posted on 2/4/17 at 9:45 am to BamaAtl
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Where it bans citizens from Muslim-majority countries and includes a specific exception for religious minorities...in Muslim-majority countries.
Are you pretending you don't understand this, or are you really that slow?
Well.. Obama appointee asked this question before he lifted the ban!
LINK
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U.S. District Judge Nathaniel Gorton on Friday asked Matthew Segal, an attorney with the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) representing the plaintiffs in the Boston case. "Where does it say Muslim countries?"
Segal replied... "If your honor's question is, 'Does the word 'Muslim' make a profound presence in this executive order?,' my answer is that it doesn't,..
Posted on 2/4/17 at 9:50 am to BamaAtl
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Where it bans citizens from Muslim-majority countries and includes a specific exception for religious minorities...in Muslim-majority countries.
This country has always held out asylum as an option for religiously persecuted refugees. This is nothing new. We have also done it for political refugees.
So, yes, Muslims are indeed affected here, and it is because they are Muslim. That is NOT the same thing as saying this order was written to TARGET Muslims. If we had a similar order against refugees from Greece, would that make us anti-Orthodox?
This is where the left loses the logic argument. Just because a group is more negatively impacted by a ruling or law, and that impact is due to their belonging to a suspect class, DOES NOT mean that this ruling or law was enacted to target them. Saying that it is is only more examples of trying to be cast as a victim.
Disproportionate outcome does not EQUATE to targeted implementation. If you think it does, you have bad logic skills.
Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:04 am to BamaAtl
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Where it bans citizens from Muslim-majority countries and includes a specific exception for religious minorities...in Muslim-majority countries.
Are you pretending you don't understand this, or are you really that slow?
It is the basic requirement for following a cult....pretending reality is not what it is. Anyone who suggests that the travel ban is simply a ban on anyone from those countries and that the majority religion of those countries has nothing to do with it is either lying or insane. Of course it is a Muslim ban....that is how it was sold originally and how it was sold just a few days ago until the idiots found out you couldn't do that as easily as banning immigration for everyone.
You have to understand that the majority of people on the right are dishonest and the proof is in their pretending to believe in fairy tales and magic (only an insane adult truly believes in such shite). Once they openly embrace that lie it is all to easy for them to accept any lie that makes them warm and fuzzy.
The left is not immune to this either. There are plenty of lying motherfrickers on the left who pretend they believe in God so they will be accepted by whoever they are seeking acceptance from. Deep down though, left and right, if you ain't crazy enough to strap a bomb to your arse and detonate it in a marketplace you aren't crazy enough to be a true believer....'cause a motherfricker who can be lead to believe that a God wants them to do such a thing is devout....sane people would say WTF????? and as such aren't really believers because they aren't insane
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