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re: Booger M. told Miles he drove a Mercedes(Team) like a Yugo

Posted on 2/4/17 at 11:39 pm to
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46652 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 11:39 pm to
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Not buying the age thing Rick....schools no the deal with miles


Whats the deal?

Is it that he turned a shite Oklahoma State program into a respectable program?
Is it that he had one of the most successful tenures in SEC history?
Is it that he has been more successful than his predecessor at every stop?

Please show me all these 63 year old coaches getting head coaching jobs in cfb? Outside of the best( saban, meyer, Harbaugh) you dont see 63 year old coaches getting big time offers from programs.

Miles has been out of work for 4 months and there werent that many big time openings.
Chip kelly doesnt have a job. Are you using the same logic for him?
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 11:41 pm to
Pretty sure Ricky = Kathy Miles

Stand by your man, bro
This post was edited on 2/4/17 at 11:42 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46652 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 11:43 pm to
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Pretty sure Ricky = Kathy Miles



Only on the rant can you be deemed a defender of miles by simply posting statistical facts.


If i said the earth revolves around the sun, am i defending the sun?

Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46652 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 11:44 pm to
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Stand by your man, bro


Thats what you cam up with while editing? Your wit is razor sharp.

Im such a Miles lover that i wanted him gone after the 2015 season.
This post was edited on 2/4/17 at 11:46 pm
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 11:45 pm to
No. It's just how enthusiastically and consistently you defend him. It's pretty funny to me.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46652 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 11:47 pm to
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. It's just how enthusiastically and consistently you defend him


Again, when i post his win% and accomplishments, its not defending. Im stating facts about his tenure.
Its only considered defending because those facts dont support a poster's opinion.

This post was edited on 2/4/17 at 11:49 pm
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 11:55 pm to
Why can't someone talk shite about Miles without you feeling the need to jump in "supporting" him? You're just funny to me. Keep it up. Sometimes you make some valid points.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46652 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 12:10 am to
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Why can't someone talk shite about Miles without you feeling the need to jump in "supporting" him?


So posters have the right to shite on miles but i dont have he right to post facts about miles? There dozens of posters that do nothing but shite on miles and turn every football thread into a shite on miles thread.
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You're just funny to me. Keep it up. Sometimes you make some valid points.

Ive never once called Miles an elite coach. In my opinion he was a 10-15ish coach in cfb.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7027 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 1:02 am to
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You're in denial...


That's your OPINION. I've already posted his total wins, yearly rankings and conference and national championship totals. You're the one in denial.

You're also the one that said, and I quote "don't tell me he recruited great talent" and I gave you a short list of some of his recruits. If you think that those young men aren't "great talent", that's your opinion and once again, you're in denial.

And to top if all off, your claim that the SEC, CBS and ESPN are the reason that LSU has been able to recruit as it has is damn near the dumbest thing I've ever read on the rant. Just LSU, no other school in all of college football, correct? You're probably one of the numbskulls that think LSU is the only school that schedules rent-a-win games.

Jesus jumped up and down! LSU has some spoiled, entitled and whiny fans.
This post was edited on 2/5/17 at 1:21 am
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7027 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 1:17 am to
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Why do you think so many LA kids are fleeing the state? 5 or 6 this year alone to Bama I think. Lot of that had to do with Miles and his ineptitude.


Miles had 19 LA kids leave to go to bama during his 12 recruiting years at LSU. The most was 4 in 2014

I don't know why so many LA kids are fleeing the state. I do know that Miles was fired over 4 months ago and whatever took place on national signing day has nothing to do with Miles. Whoever signed and whatever happened, has nothing to do with Miles, Good or bad, it's all on Orgeron.

Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48652 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 1:28 am to
Facts like "I'm not defending Miles"
Or "I never said he was an elite coach"?
You've reinvented the word fact.
Posted by Laman1978
Earth
Member since Jan 2009
10936 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 4:27 am to
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Les did it in his first season
Thank God the Dolphins weren't in the SEC West that year.
Posted by zsav77
Member since Oct 2011
6070 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 7:15 am to
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Whoever signed and whatever happened, has nothing to do with Miles, Good or bad, it's all on Orgeron.



You go to the same lengths to defend Miles as others do to demean him. It has plenty to do with Miles. His last couple of years were full of bad decisions, bad coaching, and getting dominated by Bama with no attempt to change the game plan for it.


If you don't think that has a trickle down effect of players leaving for Bama, you're just being willfully ignorant.

Though I'm not a member on 247, just reading the comments on the 2017 class article Shea put out, Les ignored or told to wait on several top prospects... he was a big part of missing out on some of the top targets.
This post was edited on 2/5/17 at 9:06 am
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 7:43 am to
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Is it that he has been more successful than his predecessor at every stop?



That's a little disingenuous. Okie State was a pretty low bar. Saban? Yes, his winning percentage is slightly better (77 vs 75%) but it's straw issue. Saban left Miles an incredible amount of talent\ and a vastly improved infrastructure. Had Miles replaced Dinardo, I doubt seriously he could have replicated or even come close to Saban's results. Whether you accept it or not, Nick Saban was the best thing that ever happened to LSU football.

Miles damaged his own reputation at LSU in his final years. Intransigence and being out dated is not exactly high on the list of attributes for a coaching candidate. Yes, Miles age hurts him but I doubt he would have generated much interest from anything but struggling P5, non-traditional power programs.

He's gone. Thank goodness.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 8:05 am to
As have you Snowflake
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
80395 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 9:11 am to
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He was? I'm sorry, but none of you jackasses were proven correct. Y'all can bang your chest when O actually wins the sec West. Les did it in his first season. Let's see how long it takes da coach eaux.


Wow.

You're just never gonna get over it, are you?
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7027 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 3:35 pm to
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You go to great lengths to defend Miles as others do to demean him.


To be honest, I'm defending the head coach of my favorite college team. Les Miles just happened to be the head coach the past 11 plus years. If his time here wasn't as successful as it was, there would be no reason to defend him. Could it have been better? No doubt. That would have been nice. Could it have been worse? frick yes it could have.

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His last couple of years were full of bad decisions, bad coaching and getting dominated by Bama


There were some bad decisions and some bad coaching, but all coaches go through spells where they make bad decisions and don't coach as well as they're capable of. As far as being dominated by Bama, the 13 and 15 final scores look bad and bama got the best of us those games no doubt. But the 2014 game was no beatdown. Disappointing loss (as they all are) but we weren't dominated.

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If you don't think that has a trickle down effect of players leaving for Bama, you're just being willfully ignorant.


I've said this in a couple of posts already but LSU only had 19 players leave the state for Alabama during all of Miles recruiting classes. 4 in one year was the most and that happened in 2014. 3 total in 2015 and 16. And there is a thread on the SEC Recruiting board about LSU recruiting in 2017 compared to previous years. In it the OP states that LSU signed 7 of the top 10 recruits in 2015, 9 of the top 10 in 2016 and only 3 of ten in 17. Seems odd that the worse year was NOT under Miles watch.

I don't know what the deal was with the 5 kids that left for Bama this year, but it seems odd to me that it happened AFTER Miles was fired, I would think that if everything was so fricked up (as a lot of you people want to believe) while Miles was in charge, the mass exodus from Louisiana by these recruits would have happened while he was still the head coach, not after he was fired.

I don't know where you stand on the good/bad debate with Miles, but for crying out loud, they way you all have painted this picture, the recruits should have been beating each other off with sticks trying to land a spot at LSU. After all, a lot of people here say over and over that LSU recruits itself.

Whatever has happened has happened. Water under the bridge. Here's hoping Coach Orgeron can continue to bring top talent to LSU and have successful seasons going forward.




Posted by bdnc
Member since Dec 2011
939 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 3:48 pm to
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I don't know what the deal was with the 5 kids that left for Bama this year, but it seems odd to me that it happened AFTER Miles was fired, I would think that if everything was so fricked up (as a lot of you people want to believe) while Miles was in charge, the mass exodus from Louisiana by these recruits would have happened while he was still the head coach, not after he was fired.



It is true that the exodus didn’t stop after Miles left, point taken. But Miles laid the groundwork as the steading drip of leaving is squarely on him and only winning can change that. Except for the Honey Badger pulling games out of his arse and on his own, Miles’ record is below the par of the recruits who came to LSU and that is Booger’s point. I hate when people say Miles couldn’t beat Bama, Miles had gotten to a point he couldn’t beat other SEC teams either, and that’s where LSU had to draw the line.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7027 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 4:24 pm to
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Miles laid the groundwork as the steading drip of leaving is squarely on him


Does it not seem strange to you that in 2015 and 16 only 3 recruits left the state to go to Bama and this year there was 5? What's the difference between the 2014, 15 and 16 seasons. The win/loss records are all close to the same, 8-5, 9-3 and 8-4. The only difference from the 14 season to now is that there is a new coaching staff in place. Again, it seems odd to me that if Miles was so fricked up like you guys want everyone to believe, he wouldn't have been able to keep the amount of home grown talent in state.

I do agree with you that it was time to part ways though. As a matter of fact, I felt that he should have been replaced at the end of the 2015 season.

Posted by bdnc
Member since Dec 2011
939 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 4:31 pm to
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I do agree with you that it was time to part ways though. As a matter of fact, I felt that he should have been replaced at the end of the 2015 season.


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