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re: H-1B Visa Bill Introduced In US, Minimum Pay More Than Doubled

Posted on 1/31/17 at 12:20 pm to
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14596 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 12:20 pm to
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My company is global already my friend. Were not going anywhere.


So why wouldn't they just ship that work off to their overseas unit?

Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
40812 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 12:24 pm to
T1 is already in India. They tried to move T2 to India as a trial run and it absolutely failed miserably. It actually almost cost us a few customer contracts (my customers are TMobile, ATT, Sprint, Verizon). They now keep T2 Stateside and T3 is shared between US/Indonesia/Espoo (Finland).

We just bought out our competitor to assume the majority of all major Telecom contracts in the US.

You should now be able to tell who I work for.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
39660 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 12:25 pm to
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They should have multiplied the $60,000 base minimum to the inflation rate.

FWIW, in 1989 $60,000 is worth $116,132.42 in 2016.


I am good with that

makes sense
Posted by ewdij
LSU
Member since Jun 2006
1302 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 12:32 pm to
I am an Indian and I am on H1B. I have read the bill. I support everything that the bill proposes. It is good for US workers, it is good for H1B workers.

I doubt it will pass.

Similar bill was introduced before and it did not pass. Main opposition came from Immigration Lawyers's Lobby and all the consulting firms who are the main abusers of H1b.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61927 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 12:59 pm to
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Main opposition came from Immigration Lawyers's Lobby and all the consulting firms who are the main abusers of H1b


There's no lobbying now. 5 year lobby ban.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
31529 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

And im about to get PAIIIIIIDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!


Well, or laid off when the company tanks.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
31529 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 1:15 pm to
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Seriously. I hate static dollar amounts in legislation.


Yes, but Congress loves them.
Posted by ewdij
LSU
Member since Jun 2006
1302 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

T1 is already in India. They tried to move T2 to India as a trial run and it absolutely failed miserably. It actually almost cost us a few customer contracts (my customers are TMobile, ATT, Sprint, Verizon). They now keep T2 Stateside and T3 is shared between US/Indonesia/Espoo (Finland).

We just bought out our competitor to assume the majority of all major Telecom contracts in the US.

You should now be able to tell who I work for.


IBM?
Posted by Sparkplug#1
Member since May 2013
7352 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 1:32 pm to
The program should be illegal. If a US citizen can do the job, they should have the right to that job before any other foreign citizen. It's common practice all over the world. We shouldn't have to raise pay to weed them out. It should be flat out illegal, and slowly phased out to adjust with job transfers to American workers.
Posted by AUbused
Member since Dec 2013
7827 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 1:41 pm to
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I guess Mark Zuckerburg will just have to sell one of the 4 houses he's bought in Palo Alto because they can see into his back yard


Crazy how much that sounds like a liberals argument when someone questions what why the top 1% should have their taxes increased.
Posted by BaddestAndvari
That Overweight Racist State
Member since Mar 2011
18373 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

Crazy how much that sounds like a liberals argument when someone questions what why the top 1% should have their taxes increased.


this has been a fun election cycle so far, I pray it continues. I have actually been happy with a few things congress and trump are moving forward on, and I'm a card carrying Democrat who voted for Hillary
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32244 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 1:46 pm to
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Crazy how much that sounds like a liberals argument when someone questions what why the top 1% should have their taxes increased.



That was more of an attack on corporate greed in the tech world than about taxes. Corporate greed is driving the H-1B visa abuse.

Still an argument that progressives should easily be able to get behind - especially those with any exposure in the tech field. I posted in the thread yesterday news articles from NYT, WaPo, WSJ Brietbart, LA Times, and Mother Jones blasting this work visa abuse. It seems to me that there is bipartisan frustration with the way things are now. It might be the one part of Trump's immigration policy that progressives can get behind.
Posted by AUbused
Member since Dec 2013
7827 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 1:47 pm to
I was going to guess Asurion
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21163 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 1:48 pm to
No problem with this concept, but I'd make it around $90K for existing and $130K for new hires, if that is a fair number.

Losing all your H1-B workers if you can't pay them double could really disrupt companies in the short term, which could cause a ripple effect disrupting a lot of the most productive part of our economy. These dramatic changes cannot be good.

I agree with the overall concept though and understand it. Just use some sense.
Posted by AUbused
Member since Dec 2013
7827 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 1:49 pm to
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That was more of an attack on corporate greed in the tech world than about taxes. Corporate greed is driving the H-1B visa abuse.


I understand, its just that your reasoning was "cry me a river a rich person will have 3 houses instead of 4" which is an argument I, as a lib, have made many times regarding progressive taxation.

Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32244 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 1:50 pm to
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Losing all your H1-B workers if you can't pay them double could really disrupt companies in the short term, which could cause a ripple effect disrupting a lot of the most productive part of our economy. These dramatic changes cannot be good.


It needs to happen, but I agree that it has to happen delicately...and with fair warning.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32244 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

I understand, its just that your reasoning was "cry me a river a rich person will have 3 houses instead of 4" which is an argument I, as a lib, have made many times regarding progressive taxation.


The irony is not lost on me.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
40812 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 2:07 pm to
IBM has small venture in Telecom.

My company use to be in the phone business :P .

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