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Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:31 am to MontanaTiger
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Anyone that is happy for Bama players to do well in the NFL is not a true LSU fan.
frick you're dumb.
They could have played for the Nazi School of Dentistry and I wouldn't give a frick as long as they can play ball.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 12:05 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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And the article you cited there is pretty old.
The video of the play I posted was just from the National Championship game from last week. That video is not old & it shows him doing the same ole shite. He has not corrected his form.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 12:24 pm to Chad504boy
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i'll gladly take a 5 yr career from Reuben Foster that compares to a Kuechly
Its not the production of the careers that's comparable, its the concussion history. Foster has also had numerous neck stingers already too.
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There’s an old football saying that goes, “The best player in the world isn’t worth a damn if he’s on the bench.” And for Foster, early on, that’s where he was most of the time. Though he made a name for himself on special teams, through his first two years, Foster was delegated to backup duty. Not because he didn’t have all the physical attributes he needed, but he just didn’t have the assignments and techniques down. That and he battled injuries, mainly “stingers” in his neck, from improper tackling technique of keeping his head lowered.
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Coach Nick Saban last August said Foster needed to fix the habit of ducking his head when delivering hits. Foster's style sometimes led to "stingers" that sidelined him during the spring of 2014 as he pushed for a starting job. His only documented concussion in college came in the 2014 A-Day Game when tackling Kenyan Drake. That head-down approach typically creates a dangerous situation helmets can't protect. Neck and spine injuries -- even those that can end a career, or in rare cases paralyze an athlete -- could come into play too.
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Watching Foster play, it's quickly obvious he wears a different piece of equipment. Linebackers are known to wear extra neck support, but Foster's extends higher than most.
"That kind of collar can help prevent or reduce muscle strains, or what's called stingers," said Dr. Jody Ortega, who practices orthopedic medicine for the Andrews Sports Medicine & Orthopaedic Center in Birmingham . "But as far as preventing some kind of catastrophic thing, that's not going to prevent that."
These issues aren't new. Flip on any of Foster's high school highlight tapes and his style is unmistakable. As a senior at Auburn High School in 2012, he was simply dominant. Every recruiting service had him the No. 1 middle linebacker in the country and ranked as high as No. 2 overall.
The high school tapes show him destroying undersized running backs, quarterbacks or anyone else unfortunate enough to face Foster head on. He was a one-man wrecking ball out there, but more often than not his head was down.
Tackling technique has become a focus for coaches in recent years, though.
"I think it's rooted in the emphasis in concussions, but it's good because there's more emphasis on teaching people the correct way to hit and tackle," Dr. Ortega said. "So hopefully it will also prevent neck injuries also."
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But he flashed skills on the kickoff coverage. Outside of the LSU play, he popped pads twice against Texas A&M and again in the Sugar Bowl with Ohio State. But after making a big hit against Western Carolina, he appeared woozy walking to the sideline where he remained with a towel over his head.
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Alabama linebacker Reuben Foster was one of three Crimson Tide players injured in its 49-30 win at Arkansas on Saturday night.
After the game, Alabama coach Nick Saban said Foster suffered a concussion but added that he “didn’t know how serious it is.”
Foster, a senior, was injured near the beginning of the third quarter and did not return. When the injury did occur, he walked off the field with trainer Jeff Allen by his side and immediately went into the team’s medical sideline tent.
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 1:21 pm to BigBrod81
All those articles are at least a year old. Nothing there says he hasn't learned or gotten better.
No great LB looks down all the time has a habit. They wouldn't be a great LB.
Also his hit against LF he was wearing that stupid cowboy collar (which he got rid of). You ever wore one of those? It's almost impossible to keep your head up. Yea you don't whip your neck but you can't keep your head up.
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Doesn't equal... No I don't believe just because Charlie Potter said it makes it true.
He may have got a stinger but that is fairly common, especially when you hit with the area between your neck and shoulder.
You're reaching on his "current" "bad" tackling form.
He could have gone take a piss in there for all you know. There is zero info on even Twitter that mentions Foster going to a medical tent during the Washington game. He also went in while Alabama was on offense against Clemson. Nothing says anything about Neck or Shoulder.
The only head or neck concern is a concussion against Arkansas
No great LB looks down all the time has a habit. They wouldn't be a great LB.
Also his hit against LF he was wearing that stupid cowboy collar (which he got rid of). You ever wore one of those? It's almost impossible to keep your head up. Yea you don't whip your neck but you can't keep your head up.
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He can’t lift his right arm during the celebration because he injures his shoulder on the hit by leading with the top of his helmet.
Doesn't equal... No I don't believe just because Charlie Potter said it makes it true.
He may have got a stinger but that is fairly common, especially when you hit with the area between your neck and shoulder.
You're reaching on his "current" "bad" tackling form.
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Foster went into the Alabama medical tent in the semifinal game against Washington as well. Something seems up with his neck or shoulder.
He could have gone take a piss in there for all you know. There is zero info on even Twitter that mentions Foster going to a medical tent during the Washington game. He also went in while Alabama was on offense against Clemson. Nothing says anything about Neck or Shoulder.
The only head or neck concern is a concussion against Arkansas
Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:59 pm to Fun Bunch
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frick you're dumb. They could have played for the Nazi School of Dentistry and I wouldn't give a frick as long as they can play ball.
You're obviously not a true LSU fan.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 3:56 pm to Throbinhood
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All those articles are at least a year old. Nothing there says he hasn't learned or gotten better.
The video of his hit on Deshaun Watson says otherwise. It was from just last week.
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Also his hit against LF he was wearing that stupid cowboy collar (which he got rid of). You ever wore one of those? It's almost impossible to keep your head up.
Can you not read? He was wearing the cowboy collar because of previous neck injuries.
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He may have got a stinger but that is fairly common, especially when you hit with the area between your neck and shoulder.
Uhhh no. Foster clearly leads with the crown of his helmet on the hit on Fournette.
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You're reaching on his "current" "bad" tackling form.
Video evidence from last week says otherwise.
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There is zero info on even Twitter that mentions Foster going to a medical tent during the Washington game. He also went in while Alabama was on offense against Clemson.
If you would have been watching both games close enough, you would have noticed both instances & wouldn't have be looking back for Tweets.
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The only head or neck concern is a concussion against Arkansas
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His only documented concussion in college came in the 2014 A-Day Game when tackling Kenyan Drake
2014 Alabama Spring Game 51:35 mark
So the Alabama staff lied about his concussion during the spring game two years ago? Are they just making up his previous neck injuries as well? Seems like the entire Alabama staff made up a bunch of stories & had nothing to concerned about then. I guess Foster wore the cowboy collar because it looked cool. You learn something new everyday.
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But after making a big hit against Western Carolina, he appeared woozy walking to the sideline where he remained with a towel over his head.
It's all just imaginary though.
Go to the 33:25 mark of the broadcast
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 6:13 pm
Posted on 1/17/17 at 4:19 pm to MontanaTiger
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Great - another Bama player for the Saints. Why do the Saints love these Bama kids so much ands seem to hate LSU kids. It's not like LSU players are not getting drafted - there are more of them in the NFL than Bama players. I've pretty much quit following the Saints because of this.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 5:48 pm to Throbinhood
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He could have gone take a piss in there for all you know. There is zero info on even Twitter that mentions Foster going to a medical tent during the Washington game. He also went in while Alabama was on offense against Clemson. Nothing says anything about Neck or Shoulder.
Ok, I just made all that up too, right? I was incorrect though. Foster went to the tent after Clemson's final possession of the first half & not after the hit that spun Deshaun Watson around. That just makes it even worse because after getting his bell rung earlier, he still wrecklessly uses his head as a battering ram on Watson. Alabama vs Clemson 2017
At 1:10:06 is where Foster gets dinged up. His head appears to hit Deshaun Watson's knee as he & Ryan Anderson meet at the QB.
The following play Foster gets a sack but appears woozy & dazed afterwards. He needs help from his teammates to get to the sideline. A few moments later at 1:12:47 Foster is in the Alabama medical tent being looked at by team doctors.
Also, when looking back for this two other plays involving Foster stuck out.
On the long screen pass to Deon Cain, Foster has a clear shot at Cain which would have prevented a lot of the run after catch but Foster instead tries to blow Cain up in the open field. Because he is looking down, not seeing what he is trying to hit, he misses the tackle on Cain. 59:58 Him correcting his tackling technique is bullshite evidenced by this play & his later hit on Watson.
On the drive where Clemson scores their first TD, Foster gets burned badly on a 3rd & 10 by Clemson TE Jordan Leggett because Foster bites hard on the Leggett's fake to the inside before going vertical down the seam. Watch the replay immediately following the play for the better endzone view of the play. 1:01:44
Alabama vs Washington Peach Bowl Semifinal
I've looked to try to find the exact play that caused Foster to have to go to the Alabama medical tent but I was unable to. Holly Rowe is the one who reports it in the broadcast. At the 1:23:02 Rowe mentions that Foster was taken to the tent after Alabama staff members said Foster didn't "appear right" while on the sidelines.
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 6:07 pm
Posted on 1/17/17 at 6:33 pm to MontanaTiger
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You're obviously not a true LSU fan.
I mean, this is Saints talk so....
If you root for a pro team based on where the guys went to school, you are doing this fan thing wrong.
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 6:35 pm
Posted on 1/17/17 at 6:41 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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Ehh. You're kind of reaching there. There's not a defender on the planet that executes a form tackle every time they bring a ball carrier down. Like I said, he just played every game in a 15 game season. It's a fast and violent sport and he hasn't missed many games in his career playing a collision frequent position. He's never going to win a Pulitzer Prize but the guy can diagnose a play on the football field, fly to the ball, and arrive with bad intentions. The saints would be silly to pass on him in the event he's there at 11 (I doubt he will be). He's been compared to guys like Kuechly and Bowman for a reason. He's the kind of player that can change the culture for a defense
And the article you cited there is pretty old. You won't find many people that disagree he used to tackle like a man with a death wish. I've watched the kid play every game of his career and his technique is night and day from when he was playing special teams as an underclassman.
I'd love Foster on the Saints. He'd be our best draft pick in years. I've seen several nasty hits from him this year where he ends up doing damage to himself, though. That's against college kids.. against NFL players.. not sure his brain or neck can take it. But if the medical team says go ahead.. fapfapfap.
My major concern is that he could have been ejected from the Clemson game twice
Dude is going to up to his nose in fines from the NFL. You're 100% right about him changing the culture on defense
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 6:48 pm
Posted on 1/17/17 at 7:01 pm to BigBrod81
I said the articles dipshit. His hit on LF I can find hundred of hits identical to that every season. He was wearing his cowboy collar because of a neck injury... ok. I said it helps your neck from whipping. So it helps a sore neck. But it's impossible to keep your head up.
Just because he "led with the crown" doesn't mean he hit him directly with the crown. He obviously had a stinger after the hit. Not a head injury you dipshit.
I watched both games. Against Clemson I said he went to the medical tent. But it wasn't when "the know it all in your self" said. You can do a simple twitter search and see that it was reported. Go find anywhere that says he went during the Washington game......
Then you bring up a 2014 spring game. Give me a freaking break. But I was right about his concussion an again you are wrong.
Yes he hits like a tank. And it's called Football. He's compared to Patrick Willis, he's a stud.
You're reaching for reasons he shouldn't be drafted. Unless doctors come back and say he has some chronic issue with his head and neck you are reaching at nothing right now.
Just because he "led with the crown" doesn't mean he hit him directly with the crown. He obviously had a stinger after the hit. Not a head injury you dipshit.
I watched both games. Against Clemson I said he went to the medical tent. But it wasn't when "the know it all in your self" said. You can do a simple twitter search and see that it was reported. Go find anywhere that says he went during the Washington game......
Then you bring up a 2014 spring game. Give me a freaking break. But I was right about his concussion an again you are wrong.
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from @TomWVTM13 at 10/12/16
Linebacker Reuben Foster wearing a non-contact jersey at practice today. He suffered a concussion against Arkansas.
Yes he hits like a tank. And it's called Football. He's compared to Patrick Willis, he's a stud.
You're reaching for reasons he shouldn't be drafted. Unless doctors come back and say he has some chronic issue with his head and neck you are reaching at nothing right now.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 7:42 pm to MontanaTiger
Here is a scenario. Say next year the Titans take Jamal Adams in the draft and (God forbid) the Panthers take L.F.7 and the Titans send Adams on a safety blitz while the Panthers have L.F.7 pass blocking in the backfield do you think maybe L.F.7 should maybe step to the side and let his former teammate breeze on through and get to his Q.B. you know for old time sake and for the purple and gold. I mean after all they're both ex-tigers..... What do you think. 
Posted on 1/17/17 at 7:56 pm to keakar
Aside from having nothing to do with the thread subject and your atrocious spelling, what are you rambling on about?
Posted on 1/17/17 at 8:56 pm to Throbinhood
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I said the articles dipshit. His hit on LF I can find hundred of hits identical to that every season. He was wearing his cowboy collar because of a neck injury... ok. I said it helps your neck from whipping. So it helps a sore neck. But it's impossible to keep your head up.
If his neck was that sore then he shouldn't have been playing. He also shows time & time again the same improper form he displayed when hitting Fournette including in the past Title game.
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Just because he "led with the crown" doesn't mean he hit him directly with the crown.
This is one of the dumbest comments I've read on this board. #sigworthymaterial quote:
You can do a simple twitter search and see that it was reported. Go find anywhere that says he went during the Washington game......
It's in my last post......dipshit. Watch the video of the broadcast & go to the time I posted idiot.
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Then you bring up a 2014 spring game. Give me a freaking break. But I was right about his concussion an again you are wrong.
So I guess the article I quoted & proved a link for which stated the concussion was wrong too? Did you even bother to watch the footage of the spring game where it happened? Apparently not.
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Yes he hits like a tank. And it's called Football. He's compared to Patrick Willis, he's a stud.
I produced numerous videos of Foster getting stingers & showing concussion like symptoms because of poor tackling habits. Only an idiot like yourself would say it isn't something that is a serious issue to consider. Luke Kuechly hits hard too yet he is one more concussion from having to retire.
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You're reaching for reasons he shouldn't be drafted. Unless doctors come back and say he has some chronic issue with his head and neck you are reaching at nothing right now.
Foster has yet to be examined by NFL team doctors at the combine yet dipshit. Until he is examined medically by each team then it remains a possibility of finding about issues with his neck & shoulders. Secondly, it would take a real thorough CT scan to detect any signs of early CTE which I'm not even sure team physicians are capable of performing in Indianapolis. You clearly have no idea how this entire process works.This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 10:38 pm
Posted on 1/18/17 at 12:43 am to MontanaTiger
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Anyone that is happy for Bama players to do well in the NFL is not a true LSU fan.
Anyone that would root against a Saints player because of the school he came from isn't a true Saints fan.
Those fricks can go back to the rant.
Posted on 1/18/17 at 12:57 am to bonethug0108
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Anyone that would root against a Saints player because of the school he came from isn't a true Saints fan. Those fricks can go back to the rant.
Posted on 1/18/17 at 9:35 am to BigBrod81
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If his neck was that sore then he shouldn't have been playing
That is the most pussy statement I will read all day guaranteed. Also shows you never have played football beside maybe flag. Players play sore every game. So when a players have to where a Shoulder Stabilizer for a sore shoulder they shouldn't play? If they have a crick in their neck and it is structurally sound they shouldn't play. Grow a pair
You bring up this stupid tent which is the same as any player being looked at on a bench. He was never taken back for any head, neck or concussion checks. So you have ZERO clue what he was in there for. Zero, once again you are interjecting your unprofessional opinion based on your obvious trait that makes you think you know it all.
Also you seriously have zero life at all and I almost feel bad for you that you spent your night going through hours worth of time to say he went to a medical tent. And he once again wasn't injured. But keep wasting time and believing sideline reporters their guy.
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showing concussion like symptoms because of poor tackling habits
But yet in his film he constantly hits things with his face mask. But you say he has such poor tackling habits. Habits are something one does over and over again. Anomalies are what you think are habits. His hit on LF (that you keep bringing up from 2 freaking years ago) can easily be argued he hit him with the side of his helmet. His hit against the Ohio State kid you mentioned way earlier is a perfect hit. His hit against Watson was excellent besides not wrapping up. Watson was airborn, how could he have done anything else there. You once again are reaching. You went watch the whole Washington game and can't find anything to justify your poor tackling criticism. Just that some chick on the sideline said he didn't seem right.
The only critique is when he loses his feet, he sometimes lunges and loose his hips. That is rare and most definitely not a "habit". You aren't considered the best tackler in college football while having bad habits. Unless the critic is BigBrod81.
REUBEN FOSTER IS THE BEST, MOST COMPLETE LB IN THE NATION
Sow what about this article?....
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Luke Kuechly hits hard too yet he is one more concussion from having to retire.
This dumb logic is so flawed it's funny
. Luke is widely considered the best tackler in football. I don't even have to link anything because a simple google search will show that. He is a stud. So you are saying you wouldn't love for Kuechly to be on the Saints?..Anyone that says they wouldn't go back and draft Luke is a complete moron. His concussion this year he hit Ingram with his chest and face mask. quote:
You clearly have no idea how this entire process works.
Oh why don't you inform, us. You obviously were a stellar football player and just know it all... You must be in the Saints scouting department.
That would also explains why the Saints have been so shitty at drafting.
Posted on 1/18/17 at 10:48 am to ellishughtiger
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Did anyone see what Danelle(sp) Hunter did this season for the Vikings. Aren't they both kind of similar.
They are nothing alike
Posted on 1/18/17 at 12:01 pm to Throbinhood
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