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Canada QB development
Posted on 1/12/17 at 11:59 pm
Posted on 1/12/17 at 11:59 pm
We all know Canada is great at QB development, that's one of the main reasons he got the gig as OC. Also, his ability to be so versitile on offense with spread and pro style concepts. My question is, do you think Canada could develop Brandon Harris as he did Jacoby Brissett and Nathan Petermen? I believe Harris has the most potential talent at the QB position. Big arm, speed, height. I feel Harris would be more comfortable with Canada's style of offense. It's a big difference taking snaps from the shotgun vs under center 80% time, especially as a dual threat QB that has ran a spread offense all through high school. Harris could be a very effective QB in the SEC if he could put it all together and be developed properly.
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Posted on 1/13/17 at 12:14 am to Dirtydave0693
I think Canada could have developed Harris if given two or three years, but remember that he will only have one offseason to work with Harris (and all the QBs for that matter) before a starter is named. That leads me to believe Etling has a big advantage since he is clearly better positioned to lead the offense right now.
Like some posters have said, I think Lindsey Scott may have a better chance than Harris to supplant Etling.
Like some posters have said, I think Lindsey Scott may have a better chance than Harris to supplant Etling.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 12:18 am to Dirtydave0693
It's possible. Canada said his offense is easy for the QB to learn and that will help Harris tremendously. The shite Les and Cam had him doing would have been difficult for a NFL QB
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 12:24 am
Posted on 1/13/17 at 12:22 am to Dirtydave0693
I dont want Brandon Harris anywhere near the starting qb role. I've seen enough.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 12:26 am to Dirtydave0693
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I believe Harris has the most potential talent at the QB position. Big arm, speed, height.
BH can't hit a receiver in 5 yards. Pass.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 1:02 am to TigerOne
Why are you guys being downvoted? I'm sure BH is a nice guy, but he can't hit the broad side of a barn.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 1:23 am to BreakingTheBank
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I think Canada could have developed Harris if given two or three years, but remember that he will only have one offseason
Yep. This is all that needs to be said. I don't think he would improve enough in the off-season to jump Etling.
Who knows how Scott will look too. He could be battling BH for the starting or backup role.
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 1:39 am
Posted on 1/13/17 at 1:47 am to ipodking
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The shite Les and Cam had him doing would have been difficult for a NFL QB
What specifically?
Posted on 1/13/17 at 2:35 am to TigerBait1127
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The shite Les and Cam had him doing would have been difficult for a NFL QB
What specifically?
Kid was asked to do some tough stuff. For example LOONNNG comeback routes from hash to opposite side lines :30, 1:00, and 2:30 marks. Lots of vertical stuff, sometimes without a release valve (check down option). Single WR routes like at the :30 second mark. Not enough of the stuff you see at the 1:20 mark. Not many guys in college football have the arm talent to attempt some of this stuff consistently.
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This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 9:48 am
Posted on 1/13/17 at 4:38 am to Shiftyplus1
Honestly I don't know what Canada will be able to do with BH, but I just want the best product on the field. If that means BH is the QB then I am good with that, but if it's one of the other QB's then that is good too. I don't understand what is wrong with that?
Posted on 1/13/17 at 7:30 am to PennyPacker
The most important thing is finding the guy who will help you win this year, but the future is always a consideration. That, combined with the fact that he is unknown as a Tiger, makes Scott an interesting contender. IF (big if) he shows the staff something in the Spring, at what point does it become advantageous to move him up the depth chart because he will be here longer?
Unless he just blows up in this new offense, I think his ceiling is probably second string this coming year, but that would still be a big deal. It would be that he would get some snaps and experience, and be even more prepared for what should be a VERY interesting and competitive 2018 showdown.
Unless he just blows up in this new offense, I think his ceiling is probably second string this coming year, but that would still be a big deal. It would be that he would get some snaps and experience, and be even more prepared for what should be a VERY interesting and competitive 2018 showdown.
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 1/13/17 at 7:35 am to Dirtydave0693
I like Harris, good kid. His problem is accuracy and I'm not sure that can be fixed in a spring and camp, maybe it can.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:00 am to I-H8-BAMA
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I dont want Brandon Harris anywhere near the starting qb role. I've seen enough
It wasnt necessarily brandons fault but more on coaching.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:40 am to Dirtydave0693
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It's a big difference taking snaps from the shotgun vs under center 80% time, especially as a dual threat QB that has ran a spread offense all through high school. Harris could be a very effective QB in the SEC if he could put it all together and be developed properly.
Early this season Harris looked much better under center than in the gun. Seriously, do you guys even watch the games? Rewatch Arkansas last year, LSU didn't run the I until they were on the goal line and LF scored.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:42 am to prepsportsallday
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Single WR routes like at the :30 second mark. Not enough of the stuff you see at the 1:20 mark. Not many guys in college football have the arm talent to attempt some of this stuff consistently.
That play you linked, he had 4 fricking options to throw to.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:45 am to Dirtydave0693
You think OCC can teach him to not overthrow a wide open receiver 10 years from him out in the flats like he did when he got pulled in the Wisconsin game? It was more than checking down on receivers, pocket awareness and mobility that he struggled with. The main hindrance was his inability to throw short to medium accurate passes to keep the chains moving. Yes he can throw the deep ball well, but there would be so much to work on to get him to the level that DE is already at. We need to win games, not experiment on if we can make the senior backup play better. He obviously practices well which is why he started for a year and 2 games, but I can't see taking snaps away from DE to see if he can do all the things that he needs to do to be productive unless DE gets hurt. I really like the character of the kid and he does all the right things off the field, he just doesn't do the things on the field that he needs to do...like throw catchable passes, just ask Dupre. When he had someone throw balls to him with touch and accuracy, he finally turned into the receiver that we all knew he was supposed to be.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:50 am to ipodking
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Canada said his offense is easy for the QB to learn and that will help Harris tremendously.
JMHO but I believe that Harris suffers from post snap confusion. He does not seem to be able to find his secondary options and it does not take much to confuse him with the defense. This would explain the "great practice" guy and "terrible game" guy performance.
I am not sure you can teach that. It has been my opinion after many years of watching football that some guys have it and some don't. Etling is better at it but not a lot.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 9:03 am to Dirtydave0693
All of our quarterbacks should improve a lot with Canada. It's Etling's job. If someone beats him out remains to be seen. Usually the first thing the BH6 posters bring up is his big arm. Nfl guys used to bring up Brees' arm strength as a negative. I think most would rather have an accurate passer. INACCURACY and his bad mechanics is what I hate most about BH6.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 9:05 am to BreakingTheBank
I have not given up on Harris at all. I think he has all the physical tools to be a really good quarterback, the question is can they get all the crap out of his head from Miles and Cameron.
It is very obvious that Harris is over analyzing everything so much, that he became completely ineffective.
It is very obvious that Harris is over analyzing everything so much, that he became completely ineffective.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 9:12 am to TigerDM
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the question is can they get all the crap out of his head from Miles and Cameron.
I think Harris's biggest coaching issue comes from his HS coach. The guy's attitude is a cancer for Harris
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