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re: Orgeron's genuine approach paying dividends in recruiting
Posted on 12/28/16 at 7:17 pm to BayouBengal99
Posted on 12/28/16 at 7:17 pm to BayouBengal99
Exactly, and Shorty knows this ever so well. That's why he does everything, especially recruiting, to keep this Bengal Tiger down...taking as many impact players from Louisiana as he can...to hurt LSU! And these low self-esteem clowns that come on here to promote the little shite-arse are frauds of the highest level!
Posted on 12/28/16 at 9:24 pm to FromtheVilles
He also has made a good decision to move on from BDP who I have nothing against personally but who is not a D1 college coach (maybe he's a recruiter but not a coach).
Posted on 12/28/16 at 9:55 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Who Rick Fedora? Who else would put to recruit against baby bear? I want to see your be all candidate.
Posted on 12/28/16 at 11:48 pm to TigerFanNKaty
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Who Rick Fedora? Who else would put to recruit against baby bear? I want to see your be all candidate.
There is far more to being a good coach than just recruiting or do you not remember our last coach?
Posted on 12/29/16 at 12:28 am to Stephen1979
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Well said. He wasn't my choice, but I'll support LSU no matter who our coach is and I will give him a chance. At least see who we sign and who he adds to the staff. I damn sure won't hope he fails just so I can say I was right. He has locked up our best assistants and brought in one of the best offensive coordinators around. Let's see what he does the next month or two.
I'm with you here. No matter what happened, he is our coach now, and the best thing for the program is for him to succeed, both in recruiting, and on the field. I just don't understand why some can't put their fears and prejudices aside and support what is very obviously best for the program.
When he succeeds, he deserved credit. When he doesn't, criticism is fair (and there are some O fanboys here who have equally ridiculous responses to legitimate criticisms). Both are part of a rational discussion, as long as we try to keep some objectivity.
There were some early issues, but O has things headed in the right direction at the moment, and is poised for a VERY strong finish in recruiting. He deserves credit for that.
Posted on 12/29/16 at 1:01 am to BayouCowboy
The class has pretty much remained the exact same save for a few guys. I think I'll wait until the next recruiting cycle to judge Orgeron. Frankly, I think LSU recruits itself to an extent, but Orgeron is certainly one of the top recruiters over the last 10 years in college football. Granted, this is the one thing he SHOULD excel at and no one ever doubted his ability to recruit, its the other part that makes everyone concerned.
This post was edited on 12/29/16 at 1:02 am
Posted on 12/29/16 at 9:18 am to Stephen1979
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Well said. He wasn't my choice, but I'll support LSU no matter who our coach is and I will give him a chance. At least see who we sign and who he adds to the staff. I damn sure won't hope he fails just so I can say I was right.
He has locked up our best assistants and brought in one of the best offensive coordinators around. Let's see what he does the next month or two.
This. Exactly this. I wasn't on the O train but I like what he has done so far. And I didn't like tying our future to Jimbo. 10 years??? Crazy pills man. I'll love O bc O is our coach. If it doesn't work out, then we move on to the next guy!
And to those saying Aranda for the head job, I thought it was widely known that his ambition is NFL not NCAA head coach?
Posted on 12/29/16 at 10:01 am to jbrau22
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And to those saying Aranda for the head job, I thought it was widely known that his ambition is NFL not NCAA head coach?
I think this is likely true. Aranda is known as a kind of quirky guy, mad scientist type. He may not be a HC in the making. I can definitely see him as an NFL DC though.
Posted on 12/29/16 at 10:03 am to jbrau22
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And to those saying Aranda for the head job, I thought it was widely known that his ambition is NFL not NCAA head coach?
So was Saban's. I guess we shouldnt have hired him.
Posted on 12/29/16 at 10:14 am to Rickdaddy4188
Rickdaddy4188, I am going to tell you the same thing the libs on the Poli board have been hearing for the past mth: accept it. Coach O is LSU's HC. Continuing to rip him serves no purpose whatsoever. And, yes, you are entitled to your opinion but it is one that has been repeated over & over & over again since he was hired. Repeat, get over it & let's move on.
Posted on 12/29/16 at 10:17 am to Keltic Tiger
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Rickdaddy4188, I am going to tell you the same thing the libs on the Poli board have been hearing for the past mth: accept it. Coach O is LSU's HC. Continuing to rip him serves no purpose whatsoever. And, yes, you are entitled to your opinion but it is one that has been repeated over & over & over again since he was hired. Repeat, get over it & let's move on.
K.
Stating facts isnt ripping someone.
This post was edited on 12/29/16 at 10:18 am
Posted on 12/29/16 at 2:58 pm to MrVoodoo
quote:Haters gone hate
Wow a downvote on that?
Posted on 12/29/16 at 4:57 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Stating facts isnt ripping someone.
Holy crap dude. You with your stating facts bullshite again. Everyone is tired of it. That's why every post on this thread by you is nothing but downvotes, with the exception of your one upvote. Your very first post on this....the main two point you had, were both false. Neither were facts.
"Most qualified" in no way equals "best candidate". Companies all across America are full of people who may be the best fit for a job, or thought to do the best, but aren't able to get that job due to the fact that they don't have the qualifications. I'd be willing to bet good money that in the "qualifications" section of the LSU head coaching job search was previous head coaching experience. Hell, even the candy coated list Alleva put out had qualifications that Aranda didn't possess.
"Career d line coach". The implication is that he has spent his career as a d line coach. This is not factual. He has been a head coach, an interim coach, an associate head coach, a recruiting coordinator, a linebackers coach, a strength coach, and a d line coach.....since we are bring facts up in this bitch.
Posted on 12/29/16 at 5:29 pm to Fratigerguy
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Career d line coach". The implication is that he has spent his career as a d line coach. This is not factual. He has been a head coach, an interim coach, an associate head coach, a recruiting coordinator, a linebackers coach, a strength coach, and a d line coach.....since we are bring facts up in this bitch.
Ed orgeron has never ran a successful offense, defense or program. Facts.
Deal with it little guy. Also,i have never liked my own post.
And for 29 of his 32 years he has been a dline coach. Fact. Deal with it little guy.
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I'd be willing to bet good money that in the "qualifications" section of the LSU head coaching job search was previous head coaching experience. Hell, even the candy coated list Alleva put out had qualifications that Aranda didn't possess.
Being the worst coach in ole miss history isnt something you wamt to bring up. In no way was ed orgeron qualified to be lsu's head coach. He wouldnt be in Vandy's top 5 as a defensive coordinator.
Aranda's resume is better than Orgeron's.
Defensive coordinator is above everything o has ever been except a horrible coach at ole miss.
But hey he is one of us. Geaux Tigahs
This post was edited on 12/29/16 at 5:32 pm
Posted on 12/29/16 at 5:43 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Rick, You are a born looser and if you don't know it by now you are also stupid! lol
Posted on 12/29/16 at 5:44 pm to Phil2012
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You are a born LOOSER and if you don't know it by now you are also stupid! lol
Classic.
This post was edited on 12/29/16 at 5:45 pm
Posted on 12/29/16 at 6:10 pm to Rickdaddy4188
You are by far one of the most negative pieces of shite on here
Posted on 12/29/16 at 6:21 pm to DCtiger1
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You are by far one of the most negative pieces of shite on here
Well 2 people dont agree with you since you have 2 down votes.
Look i hope O wins and ill be cheering for him every Saturday but when a poster acts like jimbo and herman were the only coaches more qualified and a better fit than Orgeron, im gonna respond. Sorry im not sorry.
Posted on 12/29/16 at 7:46 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Typical rickdaddy. Gets proven wrong on what he originally brought up and then tries to change the argument.
And dude. I know you like to tell everyone here all the time how you are so buff and striking (I must have seen it half a dozen times), but you have no clue who 99.9% of the people on here are. Give that stupid shite a rest.
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little guy
And dude. I know you like to tell everyone here all the time how you are so buff and striking (I must have seen it half a dozen times), but you have no clue who 99.9% of the people on here are. Give that stupid shite a rest.
Posted on 12/29/16 at 7:46 pm to Rickdaddy4188
I find it hard to believe that the some of the same people question O's hiring would have preferred Aranda. Now, Aranda is a fine DC but he has never been a head coach anywhere at any level. To suggest that his first gig should be at a program like LSU is simply irresponsible.
O has had wonderful results as head coach at two major programs. To dismiss him as nothing more than a dline coach is shallow and misleading
He was a good hire.
O has had wonderful results as head coach at two major programs. To dismiss him as nothing more than a dline coach is shallow and misleading
He was a good hire.
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