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Posted on 12/28/16 at 9:34 am to kfont28
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Why do Republicans, Evangelicals in particular, support Israel so much?
FIFY.
Posted on 12/28/16 at 9:37 am to WhiskeyPapa
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It is not delusional at all. Israel wanted Saddam gone and we removed him.
Compared to the rest of the countries who wanted Sadham to stay in power? No other countries wanted Samham gone but Israel. Sure...not delusional at all.
Posted on 12/28/16 at 9:39 am to Chuker
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Yeah, they poke the yellow jacket nest and then tell us to save them from getting stung.
Thats just dumb.
Posted on 12/28/16 at 9:41 am to OBReb6
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Jews run the United States
Who runs the Jews?
Posted on 12/28/16 at 9:43 am to WhiskeyPapa
The actual reasons are myriad.
The historical reason is a collective "we fricked up" from the UK and USA when France (fricked up right? Northern Europe was all frick you Nazis. France was all we can fit more on the trains, please, thank you.) and Germany went slash and burn on them and everyone turned them away.
Then they were an easy way to snatch Soviet tech and defectors.
The modern reason is friendliest allied black site and an easy testing ground for weapon systems.
So we've created a feedback loop of money for weapons, weapons for money.
The historical reason is a collective "we fricked up" from the UK and USA when France (fricked up right? Northern Europe was all frick you Nazis. France was all we can fit more on the trains, please, thank you.) and Germany went slash and burn on them and everyone turned them away.
Then they were an easy way to snatch Soviet tech and defectors.
The modern reason is friendliest allied black site and an easy testing ground for weapon systems.
So we've created a feedback loop of money for weapons, weapons for money.
Posted on 12/28/16 at 9:44 am to Dale51
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It is not delusional at all. Israel wanted Saddam gone and we removed him.
Compared to the rest of the countries who wanted Sadham to stay in power? No other countries wanted Samham gone but Israel. Sure...not delusional at all.
Saddam was financing suicide bombers in Israel. This was a very difficult problem to deal with; the Israelis couldn't solve it.
But we could.
You are pathetic.
Posted on 12/28/16 at 9:46 am to Chuker
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Yeah, they poke the yellow jacket nest and then tell us to save them from getting stung.
Israel needs to be left to their own devices with minimal aid from the US
I agreed with you up until "minimal aid"
Should be no aid.
Posted on 12/28/16 at 9:46 am to TrueTiger
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Holocaust card is much like the Slavery card.
Not really. Their enemies actually declare a desire to "wipe Israel off the map" The threat is of repeating history is real.
There are no forces demanding "We gonna put ya all back in chains!", and in reality efforts are made on a daily basis to comply with the black racists demand...to the point of turning a blind eye at their murdering of cops and destruction of property and violent attacks against innocent people who are not on their side.
One has to be either blind or brainwashed to not see this, imo.
Posted on 12/28/16 at 9:50 am to WhiskeyPapa
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Saddam was financing suicide bombers in Israel
Actually no. Sadham was financing any terrorist bombing in other countries. It seems kind of pathetic to have such selective focus regarding a global topic such as terrorism.
Confirmation bias?
Posted on 12/28/16 at 9:51 am to Turbeauxdog
quote:It comes from the fact that the guy is a bigot. That's what bigots say.
Where does this shite come from, I have been to all kinds of churches and have never , ever heard Israel even mentioned.
Unless it's just not prevalent in Texas
Posted on 12/28/16 at 9:55 am to wmr
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Politicians want that AIPAC $ and American media is bigly owned by Jewish interests.
And if one questions the relationship or its value to the USA, they are branded as anti-semetic, when all they might be is loyal to the United States.
We should dump Israel until they figure out how to make peace, and if they can't figure it out, Israel should go.
Posted on 12/28/16 at 9:55 am to WhiskeyPapa
What is wrong with that position. The Palestinian Authority has had multiple opportunities to come to the table and agree to a two state solution. Unless they agree to a binding peace agreement there is no point in negotiationg on settlements. In fact, I would go so far as to say the PalestInans lack of willingness simply encourages Israel Gibbs more aggressive with the settlement building! Why should they stop building if the Palestinanans refuse to make peace and agree to an order?
Posted on 12/28/16 at 9:58 am to Dale51
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Saddam was financing suicide bombers in Israel Actually no.
Sadham was financing any terrorist bombing in other countries.
Actually yes.
Saddam Rewards Suicide Bombers' Families
"On the front steps of the tattered YMCA here, people walk on mock Israeli and American flags arranged as doormats. Inside, the stage is festooned with Iraqi and Palestinian flags.
A large banner depicts the Al Aqsa Mosque in the Old City of Jerusalem, one of Islam's holiest sites, dripping in blood. In one corner, the larger-than-life faces of Palestinian Authority President Yasser Arafat and Iraqi President Saddam Hussein smile side by side on a poster.
After 50 minutes of fiery speeches praising Saddam and Arafat and vilifying President Bush and Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 25 Palestinians are called to the stage one by one. Each is handed a check — a gift from Saddam Hussein.
Each recipient is the mother, father, wife or other close relative of either a suicide bomber or someone killed in a clash with Israeli soldiers or security guards at settlements in the Gaza Strip or West Bank.
Today's donation: a total of $285,000 — a princely sum in the economically distressed Gaza Strip.
One of the recipients is Nada Mahdi, a 22-year-old student, who arrived for the ceremony carrying her 3-month-old son, Ismail. Her husband, Mohammad, blew himself up last month trying to attack an Israeli military post in the Gaza Strip. There were no other injuries in the incident.
"I am proud of him," she says in Arabic after collecting her $25,000 check. "May God reward him."
Soliciting Murder?
In the two years of the renewed Israeli-Palestinian conflict, Iraq has given Palestinian families more than $10 million, all according to a well-known scale. Families of suicide bombers get $25,000 each and families of those killed in confrontations with Israel get $10,000. Those who houses are destroyed by the Israeli military get $5,000 and those wounded by Israelis get $1,000.
President Bush says the money rewards and solicits murder. An official of the charity that distributes the money says it symbolizes solidarity between Iraqis and Palestinians — both, he says, targets of American aggression.
"The same weapons that are targeting Iraq are targeting Palestinians," says Abu Samir of the Arabic Liberation Front. "We are in the same bunker."
The group also distributes food from Iraq, and uses Iraqi funds to run hospitals and provide scholarships to Iraqi schools.
Saddam is very popular among many Palestinians because of his active support of the Palestinian cause and his missile attacks on Israel during the Gulf War.
After the ceremony, Mahdi thanked the Iraqi leader. "He is the only one who understands our situation — he's suffering the same tragedy," she says."
LINK
Posted on 12/28/16 at 9:58 am to kfont28
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Please spare me the religious arguments, such as that is where Jesus walked.
This is most likely the reason. Sorry bro.
Posted on 12/28/16 at 10:08 am to WhiskeyPapa
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Actually yes.
I missed the part where it shows payments to only those that attacked Israel.
Focus Bias??
Posted on 12/28/16 at 10:10 am to WhiskeyPapa
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The problem is that now is Israel is the problem. They are okay, not as bad as the Nazis but they are still pretty bad. Their Drang Nach Osten (Urge to the East) is an urge to take over the West Bank of the Jordan River. They are relentlessly seizing that land from its inhabitants with no possible end game except genocide.
As long as Israel is the leading force in ensuring there will never be peace, the US should not support them.
1- Israel has been attacked over and over. Each time they gained land, they gave it back until the LAST time.
2- Israel has always been an Ally of the US, the ME in general has not.
3- Israel is not committing genocide.
The Walking Dead.... faked funeral guy is perfectly fine
Kid claims leg is broken, yet they wrap his arm. hoax
A fake massacre by Israeli ... bobdie breathing and moving
BBC news duped by fake recorded injuries
Posted on 12/28/16 at 10:14 am to Lg
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With 75% of our population that identifies as Christian you might have heard; Genesis 12:2-3 2 And I will make thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great: and thou shalt be a blessing: 3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
Yeah, the whole worshipping Israel thing many American evangelical churches are prone to skips right over that Jesus guy. A bit odd.
You either believe Jesus Christ was who he said he was, or you can worship the Sadducees and their successors in interest.
You can't do both.
Posted on 12/28/16 at 10:35 am to Numberwang
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You either believe Jesus Christ was who he said he was,
You do realize Jesus was a Jew, right?
Posted on 12/28/16 at 11:02 am to kfont28
Protestantism
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