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re: 32 degrees at North Pole; Louisiana gulf waters rising?
Posted on 12/23/16 at 11:49 pm to matthew25
Posted on 12/23/16 at 11:49 pm to matthew25
look,this isn't a political statement,but we are definitely seeing milder winters. I don't know why.
I am 54 years old,and the change has been noticeable to me.
It may be a natural thing,I don't really know.
I do know that man CAN negatively impact the environment through negligence.I have seen it first hand on a local scale.
I miss seeing the millions of ducks and geese at The Wheeler Wildlife Refuge like we use to see. The sky would be covered with them,now,not very much.They will never be back.
Pretty sure this was caused by DDT dumping in the river.
The pity is,there is no unpolitical research.All the studies are done with an agenda,by both sides,so for an average person to learn the real truth..that's impossible.
There is nothing wrong though,with us all trying to lower our impact where practical...just in case.
I am 54 years old,and the change has been noticeable to me.
It may be a natural thing,I don't really know.
I do know that man CAN negatively impact the environment through negligence.I have seen it first hand on a local scale.
I miss seeing the millions of ducks and geese at The Wheeler Wildlife Refuge like we use to see. The sky would be covered with them,now,not very much.They will never be back.
Pretty sure this was caused by DDT dumping in the river.
The pity is,there is no unpolitical research.All the studies are done with an agenda,by both sides,so for an average person to learn the real truth..that's impossible.
There is nothing wrong though,with us all trying to lower our impact where practical...just in case.
Posted on 12/24/16 at 12:02 am to auggie
I don't comment much on global warming, but I'll just say that global warming, in it's most basic meaning is absolutely true and recognized by nearly everyone. That basic meaning is that Earth warms. The point of argument is whether humans make a meaningful impact on the rate and degree to which it occurs. Personally, I don't think many will dispute that certain gases, namely CO2 and Methane are greenhouse gases and trap heat in the atmosphere, which would tell me that humans are having some impact in speeding up the warming process due to fact that this is the first warming period in which humans have machines that produce greenhouse gases at greater rates than in previous warming periods resulting in greater amounts of greenhouse gases than what would naturally occur in the absence of humans.
However, with all that said, at this point I lean towards the impact being deminimus, and not something to warrant wide scale changes in human lifestyle.
However, with all that said, at this point I lean towards the impact being deminimus, and not something to warrant wide scale changes in human lifestyle.
Posted on 12/24/16 at 12:03 am to auggie
quote:
The pity is,there is no unpolitical research.All the studies are done with an agenda,by both sides,so for an average person to learn the real truth..that's impossible.
Agree with this completely.
Posted on 12/24/16 at 12:15 am to auggie
quote:
miss seeing the millions of ducks and geese at The Wheeler Wildlife Refuge like we use to see. The sky would be covered with them,now,not very much.They will never be back.
Pretty sure this was caused by DDT dumping in the river.
The pity is,there is no unpolitical research.All the studies are done with an agenda,by both sides,so for an average person to learn the real truth..that's impossible
It's because the companies that do the dumping have the pull to make it go away. Look at the 3M & Daikin dumping in to the Tennessee River this year. It's like it never happened at this point.
Posted on 12/24/16 at 12:54 am to auggie
As you say, I'm about the same age and not trying to make a political statement either.
Shark teeth have been found just 10 minutes east of Jackson, Mississippi.
Did global warming have anything to do with Mississippi being under water?
Shark teeth have been found just 10 minutes east of Jackson, Mississippi.
Did global warming have anything to do with Mississippi being under water?
Posted on 12/24/16 at 5:40 am to auggie
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This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 11:17 am
Posted on 12/24/16 at 8:56 am to auggie
quote:
I am 54 years old,and the change has been noticeable to me.
How much do you think global temps have risen since humans have been keeping records for the last 150 years?
Posted on 12/24/16 at 9:12 am to auggie
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I miss seeing the millions of ducks and geese at The Wheeler Wildlife Refuge like we use to see. The sky would be covered with them,now,not very much.They will never be back.
Pretty sure this was caused by DDT dumping in the river.
The pity is,there is no unpolitical research.All the studies are done with an agenda,by both sides,so for an average person to learn the real truth..that's impossible.
There is nothing wrong though,with us all trying to lower our impact where practical...just in case.
Waterfowl numbers are way up with most species being far beyond their environment's carrying capacity. I read recently where mallards are up about 50% over their carrying capacity and Blue Wing Teal, of all things, are like 600% over theirs (BWT are migrating later and later due to warmer falls....thus most states BWT seasons are missing the largest part of the migration....we used to never see BWT in Georgia during the regular duck season...now they are fairly common because they are migrating later and later).
If anyone doubts any of this take a look at conservation snow goose seasons....we are on the brink of a total disaster in snow goose populations because they are 1000's of times over their carrying capacity. It is so bad that spring hunting is allowed with no limits, no plugged shotguns and electronic callers....and we (hunters) are still not making a dent in the numbers....and the things are destroying grain fields wherever they are...it is only a matter of time before they die off by the millions due to some sort of disease but in the meantime they are reducing the amount of grain produced for years due to their destruction of grain fields. It is getting so bad that even the NWR system is considering spring hunting ON THE REFUGE!!!!
The ducks and geese are still here....they just aren't making it North Alabama because there is enough food and not enough ice in the midwest to keep them from coming that far south. People used to kill snow geese in South Georgia and Florida...now very few ever make it that far south because the cheseapeake bay area never gets cold enough AND there is plenty of grain left in the fields...
Posted on 12/24/16 at 9:51 am to auggie
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Pretty sure this was caused by DDT dumping in the river.
Whats the problem with DDT?
Posted on 12/24/16 at 10:03 am to auggie
But let's not neglect real environmental stewardship by giving govt. our tax dollars and power to take control over our economy.
The govt. has a large role to play, but as we have all seen, it will go way overboard.
The govt. has a large role to play, but as we have all seen, it will go way overboard.
Posted on 12/24/16 at 12:15 pm to auggie
quote:DDT and other toxic pollutants != CO2 and are not elated to AGW
I miss seeing the millions of ducks and geese at The Wheeler Wildlife Refuge like we use to see. The sky would be covered with them,now,not very much.They will never be back.
Pretty sure this was caused by DDT dumping in the river.
quote:When government is paying, you cannot expect neutrality towards governments agendas.
The pity is,there is no unpolitical research.
quote:This makes no sense. Why worry about the very mild and easily mitigated effects (even if you believe he doomsdayer evangelist warmists) when--as you note--there are so many other more damaging effects.
There is nothing wrong though,with us all trying to lower our impact where practical...just in case.
It's should be a clue to all of us that so much effort is made on "climate change" rather than other more important, pressing environmental issues.
It's emphasized and pushed because it aligns so well with a certain political agenda.
This post was edited on 12/24/16 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 12/24/16 at 12:35 pm to auggie
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The Wheeler Wildlife Refuge like we use to see. The sky would be covered with them,now,not very much.They will never be back.
Pretty sure this was caused by DDT dumping in the river.
It was caused by organizations like Ducks Unlimited creating large sanctuaries up north that they keep thawed out by pumping warm water in the water. The birds stay up there
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