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re: 32 degrees at North Pole; Louisiana gulf waters rising?
Posted on 12/24/16 at 9:53 am to FrenchToast
Posted on 12/24/16 at 9:53 am to FrenchToast
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South Pole making more ice...
Climate change, climate change, oh my...
Posted on 12/24/16 at 9:53 am to Cruiserhog
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omfg please read a science book
You're projecting again.
Posted on 12/24/16 at 9:54 am to matthew25
Posted on 12/24/16 at 9:55 am to Sao
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Umm, Miami Beach floods at high tide now.
And? What is unique about Miami Beach? All areas should see the same rise in levels, don't you agree?
Posted on 12/24/16 at 9:58 am to TigernMS12
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South LA and it's disappearing land mass would suggest otherwise.
Water, being self leveling, should produce the same situation wherever water hits a shore. Is that happening everywhere?
Posted on 12/24/16 at 10:00 am to RBTiger
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It's currently 8 degrees at the North Pole
Wow..I'm a science guy, and I know a lot of ice will melt at 8 degrees.
s/
Posted on 12/24/16 at 10:01 am to matthew25
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32 degrees at the Pole according to KGTV in San Diego.
And?
Posted on 12/24/16 at 10:03 am to auggie
But let's not neglect real environmental stewardship by giving govt. our tax dollars and power to take control over our economy.
The govt. has a large role to play, but as we have all seen, it will go way overboard.
The govt. has a large role to play, but as we have all seen, it will go way overboard.
Posted on 12/24/16 at 10:05 am to auggie
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The thinning of the egg shell,so that the embryo is less likely to be born,in a population that returns to the same nesting grounds,inherently programmed, the long term bet is a sure thing.
This has been debunked for decades, and the "researcher" humiliated. When those tests were replicated for verification, no thinning of shells was documented. It turns out the "scientist" doing the tests was using a calcium deficient food to one group.
Posted on 12/24/16 at 10:11 am to llfshoals
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If you look at global temperature history you'll note the planet tends to warm up after an ice age.
How quickly ?
And why do the rising temperatures directly allign with the start of the industrial revolution? Mistaking causation for coincidence?
Posted on 12/24/16 at 10:13 am to rooster108bm
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Thats all you needed to say.
That is a different scenario. That was a changing of the shape of the container. What we are talking about with recent sea level rise is adding water to the container that was locked up in ice for millions of years.
Posted on 12/24/16 at 10:23 am to jeff5891
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Mistaking causation for coincidence?
Most likely, yes.
Posted on 12/24/16 at 10:27 am to matthew25
The last time CO2 levels were this high, and solar output was accounted for, the oceans were 100 ft higher.
There's a good chance AWG is legit (anyone that dismisses it outright is a partisan hack - it can't be disproven just like it can't be proven).
The risk is if it's right, Florida Louisiana, New York, and many more coastal cities will be under water.
Even without warming, it appears that the oceans absorbing a significant amount of CO2 will make it hostile to living things.
So eaither way, we're having an impact. I mean, you can't expect to release amounts of CO2 all at once that the planet took millions of years to store away, without some consequence. That's just common sense.
There's a good chance AWG is legit (anyone that dismisses it outright is a partisan hack - it can't be disproven just like it can't be proven).
The risk is if it's right, Florida Louisiana, New York, and many more coastal cities will be under water.
Even without warming, it appears that the oceans absorbing a significant amount of CO2 will make it hostile to living things.
So eaither way, we're having an impact. I mean, you can't expect to release amounts of CO2 all at once that the planet took millions of years to store away, without some consequence. That's just common sense.
Posted on 12/24/16 at 10:32 am to BobBoucher
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The risk is if it's right, Florida Louisiana, New York, and many more coastal cities will be under water.
When?
You are making Pascals Wager...not that theres anything wrong with that. The problem is when Pascals Wager is forced on everyone else.
Posted on 12/24/16 at 10:39 am to BobBoucher
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That's just common sense.
Common sense is often the enemy of science.
Just sayin'
Posted on 12/24/16 at 11:00 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Its only politicized so the new sec of state and koch bros. can squeeze more profits.
Obviously massive changes happened in geological time and sidereal time, both. Ice ages come and go. So sure its impossible to parse out how much is due to particulate matter spewed out from the chinese power plants and how much is due to the ice age past or future.
Obviously massive changes happened in geological time and sidereal time, both. Ice ages come and go. So sure its impossible to parse out how much is due to particulate matter spewed out from the chinese power plants and how much is due to the ice age past or future.
This post was edited on 12/24/16 at 11:01 am
Posted on 12/24/16 at 11:05 am to matthew25
I don't know what I expected, but the ignorance on this board is astonishing. The reason that scientist know that our recent warming is not a part of a natural cycle is its speed. Natural variations in our planets climate occur slowly over tens of thousands of years at the most extreme. The climatic changes we are observing are thousands of times faster than normal and the consequences include the disruption of ecosystems that cannot physically adapt to such rapid changes to the climate. The only natural sources that can cause such quick and dramatic changes to the climate are the sun, volcanic activity, or an asteroid impact-- and all of these have been ruled out.
Posted on 12/24/16 at 11:07 am to CelticDog
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So sure its impossible to parse out how much is due to particulate matter spewed out from the chinese power plants and how much is due to the ice age past or future.
Sooo...your conclusion is?
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