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re: If free college, why not free trade schools?
Posted on 12/10/16 at 4:46 pm to mahdragonz
Posted on 12/10/16 at 4:46 pm to mahdragonz
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If I had a nickel for every arse hole boomer who said that more people should go to trade school and you mention their own fricked up failure off springs should go and they get pissed...I would never have to work again.
It's a great option, particularly if it leads to an apprenticeship. There is a shortage of skilled labor and the pay is above average.
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Posted on 12/10/16 at 4:46 pm to HempHead
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Extremely useful field that has been woefully politicized since the 30s.
Fair enough. I was just riffing and that popped into my head.
How about we sub in Journalism majors?
Posted on 12/10/16 at 4:48 pm to HempHead
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You are a self-admitted communist. Forgive me if I disregard your opinion on the ills and problems of Western civilization.
Even if that's true, Ralph has a point.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 4:48 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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You mean capitalism. I would love to suppress capitalism in all its extremes.
This is what egalitarianism does to your brain, folks. It makes you think that the very mechanisms by which you are able to communicate your absurd ideas are responsible for not having a utopia.
Go to a truly socialist country, Ralph. Perhaps you'd fare like Alejandro Cao de Benos and get a sweet gig lying to people about how awesome socialism is.
This post was edited on 12/10/16 at 4:50 pm
Posted on 12/10/16 at 4:49 pm to rbWarEagle
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Even if that's true, Ralph has a point.
What was it?
Posted on 12/10/16 at 4:49 pm to rbWarEagle
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Even if that's true, Ralph has a point.
Hush, damn it.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 4:53 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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You all are pathetic.
I know it's not popular because I love college sports as much as anybody but the whole student athlete shite applies to maybe 50% of the players in big time college sports.
I have no problem grouping advanced business studies, economics and such with STEM but I don't think a career in nursing, physical therapy, criminology, etc. require 4 yrs in college and cost $60k, we've lost our collective minds over this "everyone needs a 4 yr degree" crapola!
Posted on 12/10/16 at 4:54 pm to Revelator
I'd rather have free trade schools. There's a modern day sense of shame for going to one, when there shouldn't be. I'd like for Trump to turn this around while in office.
They're sure as hell better than Junior Colleges, which is just high school with ashtrays.
They're sure as hell better than Junior Colleges, which is just high school with ashtrays.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 4:56 pm to Bass Tiger
College certainly should be made harder to get into, but it is not vocational school. For people have the smarts and means to get a college education, they should be able to study liberal arts concentrations as well as STEM.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 4:57 pm to OMLandshark
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There's a modern day sense of shame for going to one, when there shouldn't be.
For anyone who wants insight (and a rebuttal) to this mindset, please pick up Shop Class as Soulcraft by Matthew Crawford.
The author was the head of a think-tank, had a PhD, you know the kind. He dropped it to become a motorcycle mechanic and found much more satisfaction. He elaborates heavily on the relationship between mind, body, and outcome as it relates to labor.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 5:02 pm to HempHead
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He elaborates heavily on the relationship between mind, body, and outcome as it relates to labor.
1 Thessalonians 4:11
seek to lead a quiet life, to mind your own business, and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you,
Posted on 12/10/16 at 5:06 pm to Revelator
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Revelator
Tangential, but as I have tried to grow myself within the Church and the Faith, I find so much more wisdom in scripture than I ever did before. It amazes me how humans are still the same regardless of our technological position.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 5:07 pm to HempHead
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For anyone who wants insight (and a rebuttal) to this mindset, please pick up Shop Class as Soulcraft by Matthew Crawford.
The author was the head of a think-tank, had a PhD, you know the kind. He dropped it to become a motorcycle mechanic and found much more satisfaction. He elaborates heavily on the relationship between mind, body, and outcome as it relates to labor.
That's all anyone really wants, to find their place in the economy and do something that is truly enjoyable and get paid.
I've got a good job and can't complain but I still have this desire to make a living working on guitars/amps and play blistering blues jams at night in a smoky downtown bar until 1AM, get out of bed around 10AM and just be grinning ear to ear......, is 58 to old to go for it? I don't think the wife would understand.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 5:09 pm to Bass Tiger
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I've got a good job and can't complain but I still have this desire to make a living working on guitars/amps and play blistering blues jams at night in a smoky downtown bar until 1AM, get out of bed around 10AM and just be grinning ear to ear......, is 58 to old to go for it?
Do you need a drummer/bassist who is only capable of writing intellectual, proggy bullshite like Neal Peart?
Posted on 12/10/16 at 5:12 pm to mahdragonz
What's wrong with encouraging people who may not have done well enough in high school to seek a trade? Those jobs tend to be stable provide a decent living but may not always guarantee promotions.
We need more trades and manufacturing jobs here. We also need more medical personnel, what we don't need are useless women and gender studies and shite like that at four year colleges
We need more trades and manufacturing jobs here. We also need more medical personnel, what we don't need are useless women and gender studies and shite like that at four year colleges
Posted on 12/10/16 at 5:35 pm to HempHead
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Do you need a drummer/bassist who is only capable of writing intellectual, proggy bull shite like Neal Peart?
You're to nerdy and uppity to be playing blistering blues in a smoky downtown bar till 1AM, we could also have a problem if you still got your locks and chicks still dig ya, that won't go over with the egomaniacal guitfiddle playa!
Posted on 12/10/16 at 5:41 pm to HempHead
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writing intellectual, proggy bullshite like Neal Peart?
Some fought themselves, some fought each other
Most just followed one another
Lost and aimless like their brothers
For their hearts were so unclear
And the truth could not appear
Their spirits were divided into blinded hemispheres
Posted on 12/10/16 at 5:43 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I have a voice for country, a beat for blues, and a mind for prog. Somehow, I don't think my musical aspirations will turn out...
Posted on 12/10/16 at 5:47 pm to HempHead
I've got a Don Williams sort of voice without the smoothness.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 5:48 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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quote:
writing intellectual, proggy bull shite like Neal Peart?
Some fought themselves, some fought each other
Most just followed one another
Lost and aimless like their brothers
For their hearts were so unclear
And the truth could not appear
Their spirits were divided into blinded hemispheres
Before I quit snorting, eating and smoking drugs that kinda shite poured out of me......, maybe I was on to something.
I always thought this line I came up with was clever and for some reason it's one of the few that I still remember.
Your possessions, they possess you though you always seem to need.
Tell me, where does it all end?
Will you drown in your own greed?
Ahh, I really thought I was the next BOOB DYLAN!
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