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Posted on 12/8/16 at 7:11 am to a want
If anyone here thinks we are living in a free market then wake up. I would love to live in a libertarian paradise but we don't. George Will and the rest of his establishment globalist beta cucks won't stop until we have the same quality of life as the Congo. They want one world corporate socialist government. If ending NAFTA and the TPP is anti conservative (it's not) then frick conservatism.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 7:14 am to a want
It was meant more to be a political win, not necessarily conservative economic policy.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 7:27 am to Jax-Tiger
quote:I would feel like a total moron if I'd just called someone out and then on the process end up with egg on my face like that.
Or Three Dog Night?
Posted on 12/8/16 at 7:30 am to a want
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Opposite of conservatism
Shouldn't you be thrilled?
Posted on 12/8/16 at 7:33 am to HubbaBubba
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I would feel like a total moron
If I were a total moron I would have fricked up the intent of the song also. At my age, remembering things past 30 days ago much less 30 years ago is an every day struggle. It happens to all of us eventually.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 7:38 am to a want
George Will. Yet another fixture of forum love...........until he crossed the Orangelord and expressed an opinion which doesnt fall in line. Now a fixture of hate.
SHOCKED FACE
SHOCKED FACE
Posted on 12/8/16 at 8:05 am to a want
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So, this is the new conservatism’s recipe for restored greatness: Political coercion shall supplant economic calculation in shaping decisions by companies in what is called, with diminishing accuracy, the private sector. This will be done partly as conservatism’s challenge to liberalism’s supremacy in the victimhood sweepstakes, telling aggrieved groups that they are helpless victims of vast, impersonal forces, against which they can be protected only by government interventions.?
Responding to political threats larded with the money of other people, Carrier has somewhat modified its planned transfers of some manufacturing to Mexico.quote:with the political class picking winners and losers within, and between, economic sectors. This always involves the essence of socialism — capital allocation, whereby government overrides market signals about the efficient allocation of scarce resources. Therefore it inevitably subtracts from economic vitality and job creation.
This represents the dawn of bipartisanship: The Republican Party now shares one of progressivism’s defining aspirations — government industrial policy,
Just in case any of you missed it:
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This represents the dawn of bipartisanship: The Republican Party now shares one of progressivism’s defining aspirations — government industrial policy,
Conservatism is DEAD and done. We are now well on our way to a workers fricking paradise where we are encouraged to vote ourselves money from the public coffers! It is a glorious dawn in America....when the quintessential conservative admits that the movement is dead and it is no a footrace between the left and the "right" toward unfettered socialism the left has won, period!
Posted on 12/8/16 at 8:08 am to More&Les
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Carrier must invest over $16M of its new money into the local economy and save at least 1100 good paying jobs there to get the incentives over 10 years.
Do you know how little 1.6 Million a year in a facility like the one in question is? If they are going to operate that facility at any level $1.6 million a year ain't a drop in the bucket...and they know it. Don't put a lot of stock in that figure...they agreed to that number knowing it won't even keep the light bulbs changed....
Posted on 12/8/16 at 8:23 am to a want
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Therefore it inevitably subtracts from economic vitality and job creation.
So, simply allowing manufacturing jobs to go abroad because of cheaper labor and less regulation will create "economic vitality".
This is like giving enemy combatants legal council and Citizen's Rights. Suicidal. If George's job were being lost to the above dynamic...he would not be so 'conservative'. And if George's Candidate for POTUS had won, he could kiss his (practically obsolete) version of 'Conservatism'...goodbye anyway.
The ravaging/invasion of one Nation or People by Another...used to require brute force armies to accomplish. Now they us 'words' and ideas and misguided/foolish people. The bottom line remains the same. One Group seizes the others land and stuff.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 8:33 am to germandawg
From the same clowns who probably measure how much we want to intervene in the Middle East as a litmus test
Who probably measure how deep one can put Israel's dick down their throat as a litmus test
Who probably measure how deep one can put Israel's dick down their throat as a litmus test
Posted on 12/8/16 at 8:35 am to CoachChappy
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George Will is conflating conservatism with pure free trade just to take a dig at Trump. Very sad He doesn't understand that it's sucks like him that helped Trump get elected. The establishment is done George!
Free market economics and free trade are pretty defining characteristics of conservative economic philosophy.
This is leftist, protectionist economics. This is what parts of Europe are doing.
That's not to say I disagree with it, but let's call it what it is.
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 8:36 am to Homesick Tiger
Will is right, and Ben Shapiro agrees. If you like what Trump is doing, that's yo bidness, but "conservative" is a misnomer if used to describe Trump's economic policy so far.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 8:40 am to weptiger
quote:This board largely supports a liberal economic policy and is now saying things about Will that the left has said about him for years.
George Will has become a bitter old man and represents the curmudgeon wing of the right side. His civil and country club, yet arrogant demeanor is off putting.
At what point do y'all just own up to it and call yourselves the L word?
Posted on 12/8/16 at 8:41 am to Deuces
quote:At least you're man enough to own up and be honest.
frick conservatism then. If it's the best for our country, I want it. America>globalism.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 8:42 am to Homesick Tiger
quote:Holy shite.
One upvote. There's a song the Beatles recorded just for you. Something about one and a lonely number.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 8:51 am to a want
We knowingly elected a populist nationalist who rejects Pc culture , the slanted media, and promises to appoint conservative justices.
As long as he continues to be nationalist, reject pc culture, combats the slanted media, and appoints conservative justices, ill live with the populism.
As long as he continues to be nationalist, reject pc culture, combats the slanted media, and appoints conservative justices, ill live with the populism.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 9:08 am to a want
The next time I listen to George Will on what conservatism is will be the first, and I'm not really a conservative.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 10:12 am to a want
Trump is not a pure, ideological conservative.
Ideologically pure Constitutional Conservatives are going to have some issues with some of his policies.
Ideologically pure Constitutional Conservatives are going to have some issues with some of his policies.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 10:16 am to a want
He's right. You don't just go around subsidizing private payrolls with government money. That's Soviet style stuff. So are we going to start calling Carrier the "government air conditioner?" Why not? We are paying for about a thousand workers with our tax dollars.
Go ahead and blast, but you know it's true.
Go ahead and blast, but you know it's true.
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