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Why was coal country still democratic well into the 1990s and early 2000s?
Posted on 12/5/16 at 9:06 pm
Posted on 12/5/16 at 9:06 pm
The democratic party has supported bigtime environmental regulations since the 1970s, yet only since 2004 has the coal areas really swing to the GOP. Now of course it is like 80-20, but john Kerry actually won a few of these counties in 2004, bill dominated there, and even gore did well.
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Posted on 12/5/16 at 9:07 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Unions
Posted on 12/5/16 at 9:07 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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The democratic party has supported bigtime environmental regulations since the 1970s, yet only since 2004 has the coal areas really swing to the GOP. Now of course it is like 80-20, but john Kerry actually won a few of these counties in 2004, bill dominated there, and even gore did well.
Unions.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 9:08 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Unions
Posted on 12/5/16 at 9:08 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Probably didn't feel the pinch until President Zero's second term.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 9:09 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Unions
Posted on 12/5/16 at 9:09 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
The Dems running a black guy was the final straw to many in that part of the country.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 9:10 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Unions...plus Dems weren't openly and actively trying to destroy their way of life yet.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 9:13 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Agree #1 answer is union loyalty to the dim party.
Second the really didn't think that the dimocrats were really retarded enough to attack coal and increase our dependence on OPEC. They found out that they were really really really wrong!
Second the really didn't think that the dimocrats were really retarded enough to attack coal and increase our dependence on OPEC. They found out that they were really really really wrong!
Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:58 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
I think people are being a little simplistic about this. I've spent a lot of time in Appalachia and specifically WV.
Yes mining unions and the terrible history of labor relations in that state were a major reason why it continued to vote democrat. But another reason is that WV is one of the biggest "winners" when it comes to federal funding. As a state with really tough terrain and almost no money, WV has always been very reliant on the Feds to provide for infrastructure, jobs and services. For a long time Robert C Byrd was able to deliver huge infrastructure projects that not only improved the state but provided jobs. Seriously, drive around the state and see how many bridges and highways are named after him.
Democratic Presidents have spent the last 80 years going into WV and Eastern Kentucky to launch New Deals and Wars on Poverty. The populace believed it and some of them did actually benefit. Political inertia took over from there.
They continued to vote for the Dems long after it was in their self interest, but I was in WV in 2008-09. The switch when Obama won was almost instant. It also coincided with the death of Byrd. Life long Dems when flying to the right.
Yes mining unions and the terrible history of labor relations in that state were a major reason why it continued to vote democrat. But another reason is that WV is one of the biggest "winners" when it comes to federal funding. As a state with really tough terrain and almost no money, WV has always been very reliant on the Feds to provide for infrastructure, jobs and services. For a long time Robert C Byrd was able to deliver huge infrastructure projects that not only improved the state but provided jobs. Seriously, drive around the state and see how many bridges and highways are named after him.
Democratic Presidents have spent the last 80 years going into WV and Eastern Kentucky to launch New Deals and Wars on Poverty. The populace believed it and some of them did actually benefit. Political inertia took over from there.
They continued to vote for the Dems long after it was in their self interest, but I was in WV in 2008-09. The switch when Obama won was almost instant. It also coincided with the death of Byrd. Life long Dems when flying to the right.
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 7:30 am
Posted on 12/6/16 at 7:28 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
I'm going to guess it's like the Brexit vote.
The people who voted to leave the European Union were the people who had to live close to the muslims. Scotland and Northern Ireland predominately voted to stay. They didn't have to feel the pain of being in the EU. Same with coal country. All the same type of people doing the same type of thing so they don't notice the effects much.
The people who voted to leave the European Union were the people who had to live close to the muslims. Scotland and Northern Ireland predominately voted to stay. They didn't have to feel the pain of being in the EU. Same with coal country. All the same type of people doing the same type of thing so they don't notice the effects much.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 7:31 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Two things - Unions and fake news. The media has had the low information voter duped for a long time.
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