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re: Oracle of Dilbert: Trump is leading as a CEO, not a politician
Posted on 12/1/16 at 1:19 pm to joshnorris14
Posted on 12/1/16 at 1:19 pm to joshnorris14
quote:No, but revealing the psychological manipulations of irrationality can't do him any favors.
Persuading people that Trump is an effective leader and understands what other successful leaders employ to be successful is a negative.
If I told you I'm trying to trick you into thinking the product is more valuable than it truly is, are you going to then pay more for it?
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Posted on 12/1/16 at 1:23 pm to buckeye_vol
If I thought that aspect was a characteristic of a quality leader I'd hire you to sell them for me
Posted on 12/1/16 at 1:24 pm to buckeye_vol
Geez its not a WWII secret.
Trump is trying to get a good start.
Get some early victories.
Get some confidence back into the American people and business.
Get on a roll and keep getting people on board.
I don't get all your counter arguments.
Trump is trying to get a good start.
Get some early victories.
Get some confidence back into the American people and business.
Get on a roll and keep getting people on board.
I don't get all your counter arguments.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 1:29 pm to joshnorris14
quote:But would you tell the buyers that he's manipulating their irrationality? The value of the manipulation is in the asymmetrical insight into the irrationality of the manipulator. Revealing that to the manipulatee decreases the value and effectiveness.
If I thought that aspect was a characteristic of a quality leader I'd hire you to sell them for me
Of course, this also assumes that Adams isn't actually making hackish arguments; since it's a hack argument, as usual, then it really doesn't matter.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 1:30 pm to buckeye_vol
I would tell my stockholders
Posted on 12/1/16 at 1:31 pm to goatmilker
quote:And that's logical. Adams is trying to make it sound more complex by misrepresenting psychology.
Geez its not a WWII secret.
Trump is trying to get a good start.
Get some early victories
That's what bothers me; he either doesn't understand or is misrepresenting basic psychological concepts.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 1:32 pm to buckeye_vol
Not my field can't help you.
He writes funny comics though.
He writes funny comics though.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 1:35 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
stock market that dropped precipitously upon hearing Trump won, t
The "stock market" didn't drop. DJIA futures dropped.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 1:37 pm to GumboPot
quote:Good point. They decided to make a risky investment based on an overreaction. Not quite the "first impression."
The "stock market" didn't drop. DJIA futures dropped.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 1:46 pm to buckeye_vol
You have never been wrong. Ever.
Trump would not win the primary
Trump would not win the GE
You are always right and everyone should heed your opinions.
Trump would not win the primary
Trump would not win the GE
You are always right and everyone should heed your opinions.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:11 pm to Dick Leverage
quote:I never said this; I don't think I even argued that he was an underdog in the primaries.
Trump would not win the primary
quote:I never said he "wouldn't" win. I said many times that the odds weren't in its favor, but I never said he wouldn't win.
Trump would not win the GE
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:15 pm to buckeye_vol
You act like an editorial is pulling back the curtain for the majority of people. We saw how big a piece of shite Hillary is and that didn't stop 60 million from voting for her.
We talk about responses based on perception all the time. If simply discussing them opened people's eyes, this world would be very different. Neither Trump nor Hillary would be president, for one.
We talk about responses based on perception all the time. If simply discussing them opened people's eyes, this world would be very different. Neither Trump nor Hillary would be president, for one.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:16 pm to joshnorris14
I wish I could bump all of the threads shitting on the Based Dilbert Merchant.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:17 pm to buckeye_vol
Change is where money is made in the stock market. Predictable volatility like this election is big, easy money for a lot of people playing the market.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:23 pm to Damone
quote:He still made terrible arguments. I mean Hillary was a terrible candidate so it wasn't like he had tough competition, and that was without wikieaks and the Comey bombshell.
I wish I could bump all of the threads shitting on the Based Dilbert Merchant.
Therefore a "master persuader" should have absolutely dominated her in the EC and popular vote.
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:27 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
Therefore a "master persuader" should have absolutely dominated her in the EC and popular vote.
Now that's a terrible argument.
And he did dominate her in the EV. Congrats to Hillary for that GOTV effort in fricking NYC and LA, though. Really padded her stats with those.
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:38 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
stock market will be smarter.
good. ferckin. lerd.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:08 pm to Jyrdis
quote:
I don't understand this point. The market initially wanted Hillary for "stability" because they knew what she was about. Once the market actually looked at Trump's policies and how they would be, according to many, pro-growth, they rallied behind that.
Doubtful.
People speculated on a Hillary win, and they bet on equities that would benefit from a Hillary win. When that looked unlikely, they spun their "Hillary" assets to entered "Trump" positions.
The market had a sell-off overnight, then bought potential "Trump" wins all day Wednesday.
This is Wall Street / money people; they don't care about feelings, they only care about math.
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:24 pm to GRTiger
quote:There have been 56 presidential elections. 44 of the winners (78.5%) had a greater proportion of the EV than Trump. Even if you only include the 14 elections that had 538 EV (since 1964), Trump had a smaller margin than 9 (64%) of those.
And he did dominate her in the EV.
That doesn't seem like a domination, especially since Hillary had one of the worst favorability ratings.
Quite the master persuader to beat a terrible candidate by one of the closer EV margins, while losing by 2.5 million (1.8%) votes.
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