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re: Does Penn State get left out if they beat Wisconsin?
Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:02 am to buckeye_vol
Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:02 am to buckeye_vol
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So now are we of the mindset that out of conference games and strength of schedule are essentially irrelevant?
When looking at Conference Champ PSU vs 1 loss OSU, who won head to head. That should be the deciding factor.
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:03 am to Oddibe
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The committee said from the very beginning they were going to weight conference champions because they did not want another Lsu/Bama fiasco.
People say this acting like Alabama wouldn't have made the playoff had it existed in 2011.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:03 am to double d
quote:So yes, out of conference, overall record, and strength of schedule are essentially irrelevant.
When looking at Conference Champ PSU vs 1 loss OSU, who won head to head. That should be the deciding factor.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:04 am to buckeye_vol
In the future Ohio State should just schedule like Baylor does since only conference matters.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:41 am to double d
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When looking at Conference Champ PSU vs 1 loss OSU, who won head to head. That should be the deciding factor.
If both teams had the same number of losses I absolutely agree 100% with you. The problem is PSU lost to Pitt who is 4th in their own division in the ACC and OSU beat Oklahoma, who is favored to win the Big 12
Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:41 am to Oddibe
should be pedo state because they have 1 legit win
Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:53 am to Oddibe
Zero shits given if Penn State gets screwed. They are a cult.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:01 am to Jcorye1
Y'all are forgetting one huge factor.... TV ratings.... OSU is a huge draw and will not be left out.....
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:07 am to gobuxgo5
quote:No they didn't win their conference. When you are talking about two teams from the same conference, no, out of conference does not matter especially when one team beat the other head to head. If you're talking about two similar conference champions (same record, etc.) then quality wins comes into play both in and out of conference.
Shouldn't we just put Pittsburgh in the playoffs?
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:11 am to El Magnifico
Should a 8-5 conference champion go before a 11-1 non-conference-non-division winning team from the same division?
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:13 am to KosmoCramer
if Penn State wins by 20+ how do you keep them out?
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:14 am to papalegba
Tell them not to lose by 39 or lose to an unranked team.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:17 am to rocket31
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Ohio State won at Oklahoma, at Wisconsin, v Nebraska, v Michigan. Only lost at Penn State.
Penn State won v Ohio State and... Temple? and lost one game by 39 points
In fairness to those arguing for Penn State, their resume would also include a win over Wisconsin since the question is "if they beat Wisconsin".
Also, I don't see any reason to say Ohio State's win over Nebraska counts more than Penn State's over Iowa? Also, Penn State played Minnesota as well who is getting more Top25 votes than Temple.
Not saying that Ohio State's resume would still not be superior but it wouldn't be nearly as drastic a difference as your post suggests if Penn State adds a win over Wisconsin.
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 10:42 am
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:31 am to Oddibe
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Who gets left out if PSU, Washington and Clemson all win this weekend?
I hate everything about Penn State, but they should get in over Ohio State if they win this weekend. They beat OSU head to head.
Plus, like someone says above, you're opening Pandora's box if you put in a team that didn't win its conference over a team that did, thus rendering OOC games completely pointless.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:32 am to Wayne Campbell
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It gets a little bit less messy if Wisconsin wins because Ohio State beat Wisconsin.
It was a game that went to overtime, so very equally matched (and UW should have won in regulation), UW would be the conference champ, and the evaluation should (will?) be based on an entire season of work, not just one game.
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 10:39 am
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:35 am to Chucktown_Badger
quote:And in that case, 11-1 > 11-2.
and the evaluation should (will?) be based on an entire season of work, not just one game.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:37 am to buckeye_vol
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And in that case, 11-1 > 11-2.
With the X-factor being the weight placed on being a conf champ. Tough to know if being conf champ is enough to overcome another loss. Based on what they've said about weighting the conf championship, the argument could be made.
Also, I bet those OSU fans that were so excited Iowa beat Michigan are feeling pretty dumb right now.
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 10:39 am
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:39 am to Chucktown_Badger
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UW should have won in overtime)
Huh?
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:39 am to Chucktown_Badger
OSU will have a win over what is probably going to be the B12 champ at their stadium. That's pretty huge. Not sure how much better that is than Wiscy's win over LSU. The one thing Wisconsin has going for them is that the two losses were tight. If PSU wins Saturday, that 39 point drubbing is a killer IMO.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:39 am to KosmoCramer
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Huh?
D'oh, meant to say regulation. A little pee down the leg in the end.
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