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Wouldn't an eight team playoff just shift the controversy down a few rankings?
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:35 pm
The bickering and lobbying and controversy will shift from the 4th, 5th, 6th ranked teams to the 8th, 9th and 10th ranked teams.
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:37 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Yes but you'd get more college football games
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:38 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Well in my 8 team playoff the conference winner would get an automatic bid so that gets rid of the conference champ controversy and yea there would be controversy over the at-large bids but this system would have less controversy than the current.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:41 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
People lose their minds talking about who got snubbed in a 68 team field in March Madness. There's always bickering.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:42 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Yes, which is why there is no reason for it.
The goal of a season is to find the two best teams to play each other.
If you are the 8th ranked team, you have no business competing for the #1 spot.
I like it how it is. #1, #2, and #3 usually have a case to be ranked #1 or #2. #4 gets in because they need an even number of teams, and some years even they may have a case for being ranked #1 or #2.
Everybody else can frick off.
The goal of a season is to find the two best teams to play each other.
If you are the 8th ranked team, you have no business competing for the #1 spot.
I like it how it is. #1, #2, and #3 usually have a case to be ranked #1 or #2. #4 gets in because they need an even number of teams, and some years even they may have a case for being ranked #1 or #2.
Everybody else can frick off.
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:44 pm to CommoDawg
quote:Well we could just use the conference championship as well as computer composites.
Well in my 8 team playoff the conference winner would get an automatic bid so that gets rid of the conference champ controversy and yea there would be controversy over the at-large bids but this system would have less controversy than the current.
Maybe automatic bids for a P5 conference champions who are still within something like the top 12 of the computer composites (in case a champion did really poorly non-conference).
Then the at-large bids can verify determined using the computer composites.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:44 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Yes and it would create more odd scenarios. Like the looser of the Big 10 championship game would get knocked out the top 8, but Michigan and Ohio State would still get in. Two teams that didn't make it to the championship game.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:46 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
People always argue this. However, if you're a two-loss team arguing to get that 7th or 8th spot, you have much less of a gripe than an undefeated or 1-loss conference champion who gets left out.
More importantly, imo, an 8 team playoff gives an occasional non-Power 5 team a chance to compete. It would be fun to let a team like Western Michigan have a shot at a playoff win.
More importantly, imo, an 8 team playoff gives an occasional non-Power 5 team a chance to compete. It would be fun to let a team like Western Michigan have a shot at a playoff win.
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:47 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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The bickering and lobbying and controversy will shift from the 4th, 5th, 6th ranked teams to the 8th, 9th and 10th ranked teams.
Yes. Of course. Look at NCAA men's basketball. You have teams going 20-13 with losing conference records bitching about the "horrible injustices" of being team #69 or #70 and getting left out of March Madness.
The bitching will just work it's way down. Keep four teams in the CFB playoff.
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:48 pm to Shadowlink
Indeed it would. Just look at NCAA Basketball. 68 teams are selected and are still at least 5-7 teams bickering about not being chosen.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:49 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
8 teams would be awesome this year. It'd be pretty fun to watch the BIG potentially get exposed.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:50 pm to Shadowlink
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Yes and it would create more odd scenarios.
Exactly. It would generate even more controversy and bullshite for people to fight about because after the elite zero loss and one loss teams are in, there'll be a huge fight over which two loss teams get in.
And you'll be able to subjective argue any of those teams' resumes by cherry picking stats.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:51 pm to Tarik One
quote:I think this is because it's still a subjective decision. Take out the subjective committees and use objective metrics.
Indeed it would. Just look at NCAA Basketball. 68 teams are selected and are still at least 5-7 teams bickering about not being chosen.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:53 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Of course there would still be arguments about who should get in for any type of playoff. Having an 8 team playoff means more games. Also once you get below the 8th best team those teams have much less of a shot of winning it all so it doesn't matter as much if they get left out. Most years there is a couple of elite teams and then another bunch a step below. It makes it less likely for the elite team to win every year too
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:54 pm to buckeye_vol
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Take out the subjective committees and use objective metrics.
You can't reduce it to straight metrics. No one weighs wins and losses evenly. That gave us the BCS computer model and a) it still sucked and b) they had to combine 7 computer programs and take the average.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:57 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
yeah but the farther you go, the less of a real arguement a team has
If you can't win your conference or be in the top 8 then quite bitching
as is we have 4 spots for 5 major conferences, and drastic inconsistencies among the sized and structures of those conference.
If you can't win your conference or be in the top 8 then quite bitching
as is we have 4 spots for 5 major conferences, and drastic inconsistencies among the sized and structures of those conference.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:57 pm to PrimeTime Money
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Yes, which is why there is no reason for it.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:58 pm to ClientNumber9
quote:Well the BCS still used poll rankings.
You can't reduce it to straight metrics. No one weighs wins and losses evenly. That gave us the BCS computer model and a) it still sucked and b) they had to combine 7 computer programs and take the average.
And there are at least 90 models available, and I'm sure more would create models if there was more of an incentive.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:00 pm to buckeye_vol
It would look bad this year because nearly half of the top 8 got beat by Ohio state already
Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:03 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Sure, but we all know an 8 team would be way better. I just wish they would've let the BCS rankings determine the 4 or 8 teams, not a stupid committee.
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