re: O Pumpers, why do you want him as the HC of LSU?

They miss Les. Same coach

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one other thing I left off as a reason to go coach O. You could get him for way way less than a coach like Herman and even way less than Fedora or Gundy. Why does that matter do you say? Because it leaves a whole lot of money to retain Aranda and to hire a great OC (if for some reason you aren't happy with Ensminger)

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Assuming this is successful (it won't be) how long do you think O's ego will allow this? Everyone calling his assistants the geniuses and them getting nearly his pay?

And you think keeping Ensminger as OC is a decent idea?

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Let's just say he's a Pete Carroll disciple. That would be one thing.

Let's also say he's coached at three of the most successful college programs, Miami, Southern Cal , and LSU.

Lets also acknowledge he's been named Recruiter of the Year before.

More than anything else, I like the way the team has played for him.

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This is about being head coach. Let's say he's been horrible at that before. Let's say he can barely speak English. Let's say he had a restraining order on him from his girlfriend at the time for alleged abuse.

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Now you tell me why he doesn't deserve consideration over Herman...so Herman was an OC at rice, Iowa St, and OSU and OSU was the only place he won...do yo really think he made OSU better? Has OSU fallen off without him? Houston has had great offenses for years.

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Compare every school he's been to the year before he got there, and then the year he got there, then you'll see the shift.

Rice went from 3 wins year one with Herman setting offensive records like a mofo, to 10-3 with a QB that put up over 4800 total yards (over 4100 passing) and 57 TDs (44 passing). The year after he left, they won 2 games. Hell it took them 4 more years after he left until they had a winning record again (or more than 4 wins period).

At FCS Texas St, his QB went from nobody the year before, to the 5th in the FCS version of the heisman, and the team made their first appearance in the playoffs ever.

He literally was the one who implemented the power in Urban Meyer's spread attack. His 2 QBs passed for nearly 3700 yards and 41 TDs and ran for 1235 yards and 12 TDs the last year he was at Ohio St. The year after he left, the same QBs passed for 2450 yards and 19 TDs in 13 games and ran for 875 and 13 TDs. If you spread out that to 2 extra games like they played in Herman's last year, you get 2827 pass yards and 22 TDs, and 1010 rush yards and 15 TDs. They year before that (2013) with 2 totally different QBs, his QBs passed for 2850 yards and 38 TDs and ran for 1400 yards and 17 TDs. Before Herman's implementation of the power spread that Urban still currently uses, Urban has never had a 1000 yard rusher. Thousand yard rushers came out the arse in Herman's 2nd year there and has yet to stop even now.

He actually made Iowa St have an offense and finished up there with a QB that was 2nd all time in the school at passing and total offense and an RB that was 4th all time in the school in rushing. The 3 years before he got there they were 9-27, the 3 years he was there, they were 18-20, the 3 years after they were 11-26. They haven't won more than 3 games in a season since he left.

Herman is the real deal and will finish this year 10-3 with a team that lost a lot of talent and was banged up throughout the year. Greg Ward has 3350 pass yards and 22 TDs along with 510 rush yards and 9 TDs in 11 games. For reference GWJr had 3900 total yards and 38 TDs in 13 games last year.

You're on point buga

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You're on point buga

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what point did he make? He started a thread with a preconceived notion of the reasons people like coach O for the job and got slammed. Then he never showed back up again.