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What are some options for O if he leaves?

Posted on 11/22/16 at 9:03 am
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 11/22/16 at 9:03 am
Any small mid majors that would give him a chance as HC?

Who is about to open up among the smaller schools.

I could see someone taking a chance on him.
Posted by LSUinMA
Commerce, Texas
Member since Nov 2008
4938 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 9:09 am to
According to indeed.com there is a help wanted ad at a place called Kelly's Cajun Grill in Grapevine, TX.

Eta apparently also at Bobby Hebert's place in Metairie
This post was edited on 11/22/16 at 9:10 am
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 11/22/16 at 9:16 am to
quote:

According to indeed.com there is a help wanted ad at a place called Kelly's Cajun Grill in Grapevine, TX.

Eta apparently also at Bobby Hebert's place in Metairie


While I see your joke and chuckled, you don't think he gets a HC chance at a small school considering the publicity he has been getting last couple of months and his overall Interim record?

I think a lot of mid majors would hire him.
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20557 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 9:18 am to
In all honesty prbly not even a small mid major. He is a great DL coach and recruiter, that's all. I really wish LSU would have just given the interim tag to BDP. In all likelihood we would have the same record just without all the division amongst fans.
Posted by GWfool
Member since Aug 2010
2400 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 9:19 am to
H doesn't want a mid-major coaching job. He wants a power five job. He might get one at a smaller program but I can think of one currently that would go after him.
Posted by Fratigerguy
Member since Jan 2014
4913 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 9:19 am to
See, this is the kind of shite that is not needed here. Whether you like the man as head coach of the Tigers or not, he has done nothing but do his best to represent the Tigers well, and bring the program back to prominence. In addition, for you to ignore his worth to nearly every major college football program as a coach is just stupid. He is a great D line coach, recruiter, and motivator. I believe his work as interim at both USC and LSU, especially after hearing what the players have had to say about energy and preparation, have warranted his being given another shot to show what he has been able to improve upon since being let go at Ole Miss as a head coach. No, not for the Tigers right now, but there are a TON of smaller school who have head coaches who will do far worse than Coach O could.
Posted by CalTiger53
California
Member since Oct 2011
9713 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 9:19 am to
"One thing Les Miles achieved before he was fired was putting together a coaching staff with some impressive pieces, the most notable being Orgeron. It also includes maybe the hottest defensive coordinator in college football, Dave Aranda.

These are coaches who would be welcome additions to just about any staff in college football. And here’s the scary part for LSU: If you let them go, your new coach could end up having to coach against Aranda somewhere and, maybe even more frightening, recruit against Orgeron, one of the best in college football.

The Orgeron part is a particularly tricky situation. Let’s say Orgeron, unhappy with not getting the top job at LSU, leaves and is offered a position by, say, Alabama.

Here’s one of the premier recruiters in the game with deep roots in Louisiana going to the one school in America that can make a serious run against LSU for the state’s top talents. There isn’t a coach in the world, with the possible exception of Texas-San Antonio coach Frank Wilson, better suited to recruit Louisiana than Orgeron, a native of the bayou.

Alabama already features star players from Louisiana such as left tackle Cam Robinson and outside linebacker Tim Williams. Imagine the damage Alabama can do in the bayou state with Orgeron recruiting there.

For that matter, imagine if he wound up joining John Chavis on the Texas A&M staff. Or Auburn."
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
24314 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 9:19 am to
quote:

In all honesty prbly not even a small mid major. He is a great DL coach and recruiter, that's all. I really wish LSU would have just given the interim tag to BDP. In all likelihood we would have the same record just without all the division amongst fans.


ULL would be a great fit for him if he can't make it work at LSU.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
87973 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 9:19 am to
HC in Sun Belt or DL coach most anywhere he wants
Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 11/22/16 at 9:22 am to
quote:

The Orgeron part is a particularly tricky situation. Let’s say Orgeron, unhappy with not getting the top job at LSU, leaves and is offered a position by, say, Alabama.



I think O wants to be a head coach somewhere and would prefer that over being a DL at a power 5.

The guy needs to be seasoned somewhere small first before he gets the keys to a Ferrari.

Would love to see how he would do at a ULL or Idaho.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34061 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 9:28 am to
quote:

While I see your joke and chuckled, you don't think he gets a HC chance at a small school considering the publicity he has been getting last couple of months and his overall Interim record?

I think a lot of mid majors would hire him.


Maybe. However, his only HC job was a bust. He had success at USC in 2013, yet that only transitioned to a DL job at LSU.

If Orgeron has his sights set on a power conf. job, then it's hard to see that happening. Maybe ULL or another LA. school?

I know some on this board may not like to hear it, but O's coon-arse accent might turn off a lot of programs elsewhere in the country. Obviously it's no big deal here in Louisiana, but I could see a lot of AD's being a bit hesitant to hand the crown jewel of the athletic dept over to a guy who talks like that. He's endearing to Louisiana folks, but he sounds like Farmer Fran to the rest of the country. Remember, O would have to be the face to the program. Even if it is completely untrue, booster/administrators in Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, California, New York, etc. might listen to him speak and say "there's no way we are letting this buffoon be the face of our football team."

Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
21502 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 9:44 am to
I would hate for Coach O to end up at bama, but, hopefully, his love for LSU would preclude him from going to LSU's biggest rival. But he & Saban & bama together, that would be hard to overcome & it's already a battle to beat bama. Their DL coach is new if I am not mistaken, B.Davis having been fired over the summer for violations, and with the numbers of coaches Saban keeps on his staff, there would be room for him somewhere there. A nightmare scenario. And as for his Cajun accent being an issue: get real: if it fit in OxfordfrickingMississippi, it would not be an issue anywhere.
Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 11/22/16 at 10:05 am to
quote:

I would hate for Coach O to end up at bama


I could 100% see this happen if he leaves and doesn't get any HC offers.

Would be the most BAMA thing ever to hire him.

If he gets a HC offer from anyone he will be a HC though.
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
32682 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 10:10 am to
I don't say this lightly, and I don't like dressing down a coach. But, here it is.

Orgeron was at home doing nothing when Les hired him. He was pouting over no getting the USC gig. He only wanted a power 5 HC job. He turned down at least one DC job, and a few other DL jobs hoping to get a HC job.

He ended up getting no job.

Fast forward and Les hires him as DL coach. He also got some recruiting title added on for more money.

Coach Orgeron openly campaigned for the Syracuse HC job and didn't even get an interview. He isn't getting a HC job at a power 5 school. He won't even get an offer to be DC at a power 5 school.

1. He's a proven great recruiter.
2. He's a proven great DL coach.
3. He's proven to be above average as an interim coach.

At this point, Orgeron is what he is. A DL coach who can recruit his butt off.
Posted by ArkBengal
Benton, AR
Member since Aug 2004
2153 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 10:14 am to
I could see La Tech maybe offering Head Coach if/when Holtz leaves (probably this year). Would be a good experience for him and a chance to show what he could do as a Head Coach
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19731 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 10:17 am to
quote:

At this point, Orgeron is what he is. A DL coach who can recruit his butt off.


this is 100% correct.

We love O, but he's not going to get a HC job, certainly not at an elite school. He's done fine as an interim, but that's completely different than being a permanent HC responsible for everything in the program. And you just can't dismiss his time at Ole Miss, no matter how much the O-pumpers love his accent.

If he really wants to be a HC, go prove it at a lower school first.

But I'd love to keep him on staff because of recruiting.
Posted by matsuflex
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
1593 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 10:52 am to
The same people that say we should hire him because he's one of us and LOVES LSU then say if we don't he will then go to BAMA for a lateral or lesser position if we don't. I don't see it. He could jump to the NFL D-Line i'm sure if can't find a HC job at a smaller school.
I hate the fact that he campaigned for the HC job here from day one. It will probably keep him from staying with LSU with a new HC.
Posted by LSUinMA
Commerce, Texas
Member since Nov 2008
4938 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 10:56 am to
Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize I needed to confirm the content of my posts with you, motherfricker.

I gather that you did not recognize my comments as humor, but the other point of them is that for entirely too many people on this board his primary value as a head coaching candidate is his Cajun background.
Posted by Baseball5
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2016
22 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 11:30 am to
Funny thing is he's not THAT great of a recruiter.. I understand he Miami days but recent history tells a little different story.

According to 247 recruiter rankings since 2008 LSU has had a higher ranked coach on staff every year except 2013, when Coach O finished 5th and Frank Wilson 22nd.

Coach O's highest finish- according to 247- (4th in 2011), Frank Wilson finished 2nd.

IMO he is an extremely valuable piece to the recruiting piece of the overall puzzle who can motivate and coach the hell out of the DL. LSU is fortunate to have him on staff and should do whatever they can to keep him... just not as HC.
Posted by Jeff Goldblum
Gardner, LA
Member since Nov 2004
1088 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 12:26 pm to
Northwestern State desperately needs a coach of his talents.
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