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NFL Overtime Scenario: Opening with an onside kick, Can recov. team win w/ FG?
Posted on 10/16/16 at 11:02 pm
Posted on 10/16/16 at 11:02 pm
Question 1
If someone were to open the overtime with an onside kick and recover it, is the game now sudden death and winnable by FG?(did that count as the receiving teams possession?
Question 2. (Totally different scenario)
Let's say the saints panthers are playing and the game goes to overtime.
Saints get the ball first. Drew Brees throws an interception. As the intercepting player is running with the ball, he fumbles the ball. The fumble is then recovered by the saints.
Can the saints then win with a FG via sudden death?
If someone were to open the overtime with an onside kick and recover it, is the game now sudden death and winnable by FG?(did that count as the receiving teams possession?
Question 2. (Totally different scenario)
Let's say the saints panthers are playing and the game goes to overtime.
Saints get the ball first. Drew Brees throws an interception. As the intercepting player is running with the ball, he fumbles the ball. The fumble is then recovered by the saints.
Can the saints then win with a FG via sudden death?
This post was edited on 10/16/16 at 11:06 pm
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Posted on 10/16/16 at 11:02 pm to Cow Drogo
Yes game is over because the recievers lost possession
Posted on 10/16/16 at 11:05 pm to Cow Drogo
Question 1- Yes
Question 2- Don't know
Question 2- Don't know
Posted on 10/16/16 at 11:11 pm to Cow Drogo
Hmm, now you got me reading the rulebook...
(e) The opportunity to possess applies only during kicking plays. A kickoff is the opportunity to possess for the receiving team. If the kicking team legally recovers the kick, the receiving team is considered to have had its opportunity.
(4) If the second team loses possession by an interception or fumble, but the first team committed a foul prior to the change of possession, the second team’s possession has not legally ended, and the game cannot end on the down. However, in certain situations (see Approved Ruling 16.24) the second team cannot decline the
penalty and accept the result of the play, no matter how beneficial, because it would create a second
possession for itself. It must accept the penalty enforcement, which will extend its initial possession.
(5) The situation in (4) may also affect the team that receives the opening kickoff during its first possession. If there is a foul by the second team followed by a double change of possession, and the first team declines the penalty and accepts the result of the play, the second team has had its required possession, and the first team has possession of the ball for the second time and needs only a field goal to win. However, if it accepts the penalty, it will extend its initial possession (see Approved Ruling 16.25).
TL;DR: Yes to both.
quote:
Question 1
If someone were to open the overtime with an onside kick and recover it, is the game now sudden death and winnable by FG?(did that count as the receiving teams possession?
(e) The opportunity to possess applies only during kicking plays. A kickoff is the opportunity to possess for the receiving team. If the kicking team legally recovers the kick, the receiving team is considered to have had its opportunity.
quote:
Question 2. (Totally different scenario)
Let's say the saints panthers are playing and the game goes to overtime.
Saints get the ball first. Drew Brees throws an interception. As the intercepting player is running with the ball, he fumbles the ball. The fumble is then recovered by the saints.
Can the saints then win with a FG via sudden death?
(4) If the second team loses possession by an interception or fumble, but the first team committed a foul prior to the change of possession, the second team’s possession has not legally ended, and the game cannot end on the down. However, in certain situations (see Approved Ruling 16.24) the second team cannot decline the
penalty and accept the result of the play, no matter how beneficial, because it would create a second
possession for itself. It must accept the penalty enforcement, which will extend its initial possession.
(5) The situation in (4) may also affect the team that receives the opening kickoff during its first possession. If there is a foul by the second team followed by a double change of possession, and the first team declines the penalty and accepts the result of the play, the second team has had its required possession, and the first team has possession of the ball for the second time and needs only a field goal to win. However, if it accepts the penalty, it will extend its initial possession (see Approved Ruling 16.25).
TL;DR: Yes to both.
Posted on 10/17/16 at 12:16 am to Cow Drogo
NFL overtime sucks balls.
Posted on 10/17/16 at 12:28 am to Cow Drogo
I wanted to know this as well
Posted on 10/17/16 at 12:51 am to Cow Drogo
thats a good question on #2. actually both 
Posted on 10/17/16 at 5:01 am to Cow Drogo
These were two questions I hadn't even considered before. Thanks for asking them. And thanks to saintsfan92612 for answering them.
Posted on 10/17/16 at 11:26 am to Cow Drogo
quote:
If someone were to open the overtime with an onside kick and recover it, is the game now sudden death and winnable by FG?(did that count as the receiving teams possession?
No, because team one never had possession.
quote:
Saints get the ball first. Drew Brees throws an interception. As the intercepting player is running with the ball, he fumbles the ball. The fumble is then recovered by the saints.
Can the saints then win with a FG via sudden death?
Yes, because both teams had possession.
Posted on 10/17/16 at 11:51 am to Cow Drogo
Yes
Yes
Yes
Posted on 10/17/16 at 1:21 pm to Cow Drogo
I thought you couldn't open OT with an onside kick?
Posted on 10/17/16 at 3:43 pm to Cow Drogo
Something kind of cool that may not be known. So overtime starts, say it takes team a 11 minutes to go down the field and score a field goal. Team b then gets the ball and is in the middle of their drive, but the four minutes runs out in the overtime period. The game is in fact not over, because team b is still on their opening overtime possession. So a second overtime will begin for the conclusion of team b's possession.
This post was edited on 10/17/16 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 10/17/16 at 9:23 pm to Cow Drogo
This isn't common knowledge? Especially the second scenario.
A change of possession is a change of possession. If a team recovers a fumble, they have possession.
A change of possession is a change of possession. If a team recovers a fumble, they have possession.
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