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re: I love the movie "Fury" but...

Posted on 9/5/16 at 9:14 pm to
Posted by BM7133
Raceland, LA
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 9/5/16 at 9:14 pm to
Ideals are peaceful. History is violent.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20565 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 9:26 pm to
Yeah, I noticed that too. Really seemed odd and out of place; a little big for a trophy, and damn hard to find ammo. A Thompson would have been a lot more realistic and believable.

BUT... I think the issue is, "it looks cool".
Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2011
15398 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 10:07 pm to
This is the unrealistic thing you bitch about regarding that movie? Don't worry that the dude was just on top the tank at the end blasting the 50 cal while surrounded by and entire regiment and the way he goes down is a lone sniper.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 10:11 pm to
And the guy doesn't kill the kid at the end under the tank. Those Krauts were fanatics. Would have messed him up.

That and a force that size could have simply flanked the tank and used AT weapons to easily knock it out. But alas, it's a movie, so, huge battle scene.
This post was edited on 9/5/16 at 10:20 pm
Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2011
15398 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 10:21 pm to
Agreed. Recuperating from the weekend I was going through Netflix. Watched a movie called Defiance. Came out in 2008, but I never caught it. Great movie. About these hundreds of Jews who escaped to the forests in belorussia and fought back against the local police and Germans.
Posted by BM7133
Raceland, LA
Member since Feb 2006
1188 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 10:31 pm to
Defiance was amazing. In the movie they referred to the group as the Bielski Otriad but history remembers them as the Bielski Partisans
Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2011
15398 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 10:42 pm to
The things those people endured. No way my sunshine pumping generation would last.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27590 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 10:50 pm to
quote:

they were very fragile weapons


I disagree with this.

I may or may not have one my great uncle took somewhere in Germany. It is an astounding weapon... Or might be.
Posted by Corch Urban Myers
Columbus, OH
Member since Jul 2009
5993 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:49 am to
quote:

Defiance was amazing.


Yes it was. I'm not normally a big fan of Liev Schreiber but he was solid in this movie.
Posted by Corch Urban Myers
Columbus, OH
Member since Jul 2009
5993 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 9:14 am to
quote:

I disagree with this.

I may or may not have one my great uncle took somewhere in Germany. It is an astounding weapon... Or might be.


I would like for you to expound on this, if you have the time and inclination.

I'm only going off of what I've heard. I have never held or fired one or hell have even seen one IRL. I would like to hear from those that have and/or are in the know.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81942 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 9:30 am to
quote:

In rare instances soldiers will go out of their way to maintain a prized weapon, which the Stg-44 would definitely be.




Possibly the worst thread in OB history.
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
16934 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 10:11 am to
quote:

Why in the frick is Brad Pitt's character, an AMERICAN tank commander, armed with a Sturmgewehr 44, a GERMAN machine gun


In the course if WWII, combatants from all side FREQUENTLY picked up enemy weapons and would use them. The StG-44 would have been highly sought after.

quote:

widely been regarded as worthless piece of shite?


I have no idea where you've heard this. The StG-44 revolutionized infantry weaponry. It was heavy, but it was by no means a piece of shite. It simply wasnt going g to have any effect on the war at that stage of the game.

Germans picked up Soviet Ppsh's and Svt-40's throughout the war. There are plenty pictures and firsthand accounts out there documenting this. Soviets used German weapons. Americans used them as well. There's always a fascination and novelty factor in an enemy's weapons.

These things happened in WWII and that is absolutely one of the least unrealistic aspects of Fury.

If you really want to complain, complain about the Tiger scene and the final battle scene. They were Hollywood garbage through and through. They used an actual Tiger for that scene as opposed to the mock ups, so I'll give them that at least.
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
16934 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 10:23 am to
quote:

I may or may not have one my great uncle took somewhere in Germany. It is an astounding weapon... Or might be


If you have one that has not been registered, that is cool as shite (not bc it's not regustered but BC it's an awesome piece) and highly risky.

My dad has two full auto Thompsons, bought them at a show in Houston about 15 years back. A friend of his that also was a collector had a Reising SMG that he had acquired from someone who had been secretly keeping it. They missed the 1986 registration period so the gun was illegal. He anonymously called the ATF and asked them if there was anyway to legally register a historical automatic weapon. They told him no and recommended destroying any such weapon someone might be in possession of to avoid legal charges in the instance it was discovered.

Long story short, he took it out on the boat and gave it one last hoorah before anonymously donating it to the D-Day museum, where it still resides today. A damn shame as it was a beautiful and rare piece. The penalties for illegally possessing automatic weapons though are no joke.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 9/6/16 at 10:46 am to
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Corch Urban Myers
you even messed this up, Irvin
Posted by Corch Urban Myers
Columbus, OH
Member since Jul 2009
5993 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 12:41 pm to
quote:

I have no idea where you've heard this.


It was a piece of shite not because it was badly designed, but because they used inferior metallurgy to make it.

I think we can all agree that Germans are some of the best engineers and weaponsmiths in the world.

But like another poster said, they were running out of good raw materials.
Posted by Corch Urban Myers
Columbus, OH
Member since Jul 2009
5993 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 12:44 pm to
quote:

you even messed this up, Irvin


Your burger is about to get spit in.
Posted by Sancho Panza
La Habaña, Cuba
Member since Sep 2014
8161 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 1:28 pm to
This may, or may not, have been discussed on the Bonus Discs that came with the Blu Ray where they went into details about his character.

Next time I watch, I make a note.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 1:37 pm to
Yeah the 88s from the AT guns and Tiger wouldn't have bounced off the Sherman's as much as they did. Plus Fury was an Easy 8 had the 76mm which could have indeed punched through Tiger armor.

Also the Easy 8s didn't come out til summer 44. If they had been together since Africa, they would have been in another variant (which maybe they were and got a new rig after D Day)

So yeah the movie wasn't accurate in a lot of ways, but it had a very good and different feel to it
Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
9726 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

Just probably ripped it off a dead nazi officer's rotting corpse.


This
Posted by johnnydrama
Possibly Trashy
Member since Feb 2010
8722 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 1:43 pm to
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And the guy doesn't kill the kid at the end under the tank.
This bugged the frick out of me. The Kraut is surrounded by the bodies of hundreds of his fallen comrades and decides to let Shia Labeouf live? frick that!
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