re: ‘This is unprecedented’: 174 heroin overdoses in 6 days in Cincinnati

It's time for some real honest discussions about drugs.

The heroin industry is well-organized enough to offer free samples?

How addictive does heroin have to be for addicts to know that people are dying left and right from overdoses and yet they still shoot up...

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Stupid people want to do stupid things like heroin? Let them overdose and, hopefully, die. I just don't want to pay for any of it.

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Unfortunately some aren't getting heroin except a small amount cut with other drugs. Heroin overdoses can be stopped or reversed with Narcan but it doesn't work on Carfentanil or Fentanyl (I believe)

Heroin use increased when people addicted to pain pills were pushed to heroin by changes drug laws. 3/4ths of current heroin users started by using prescription pain pills.

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Not all addicts are bad people.

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Most heroin addicts who died in my city were normal, working folks before addiction. A mix of blue and white collar.

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It won't starve LEO

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That's what is being advocated - taking money away from LEO and corrections (which I DON'T disagree with)

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dumbass.

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Thanks for conceding the argument.

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They just won't be buying up all the needless "tactical" gear and toys they only use once every 5 years.

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Meh. They're still going to serve high risk warrants, just won't be for distributing CDS II or whatever. There are still plenty of nasty folks, armed robbery crews, street gangsters, straight up bad guys, etc., to go around.

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You obviously have no clue what you're talking about

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You're right, buddy. I didn't make it out of the 6th grade. Good catch.

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and have never seen someone struggle with addiction.

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My family has its share. Addicts are de facto weak folks.

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Not all addicts are bad people.

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I didn't say they were. I said, essentially, the faster we get rid of their genes, the better off we'll be. Weak people not only hurt themselves, they bring everyone else down with them.

So - let them do drugs. Let's not try to stop them. They don't want to be stopped. That's the only thing keeping me from being a 100% libertarian in this area - I don't want to subsidize their terrible choices. But, I'm already paying for it in the prison-industrial complex, so I guess we're screwed (as responsible taxpayers) either way, right?

Needles out for harambe

Or you know replace prisons with rehab centers to help actually kick the stuff. People make bad choices and often don't know what they're getting into. The only difference here is this shite is really addicting so it's harder for them to not make the mistake again

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Yeah - human beings never react to changes in the environment. They just quietly pay whatever increased fees/rates/taxes/copayments without complaint, fuss or exploration of other options.

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What are you bashing me for? I don't appreciate the tone of your eye roll sir!

Of course people react. I'm just pointing out that imho it was an over reach. They had no idea, I believe, that this would be a reaction. As an ER nurse who has handed out a bucket of Vicodin and hundreds of scrips, I was initially glad for the change. I never in a million years thought heroin would spike like it has.