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What will the flood do to the housing market here?

Posted on 8/14/16 at 6:09 pm
Posted by dualed
Member since Sep 2010
4705 posts
Posted on 8/14/16 at 6:09 pm
Do home values shoot up here?
Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 8/14/16 at 6:12 pm to
Curious about this as well. I'm in the market for a new home and we were looking to make an offer in the next 30 days but now I'm concerned that home prices are going to rise with the amount of people needing places to live.
Posted by kaaj24
Dallas
Member since Jan 2010
624 posts
Posted on 8/14/16 at 7:58 pm to
I would guess increase due to lower inventory. Areas that didn't flood will be priced at a higher premium than before.
Posted by BowDownToLSU
Livingston louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
19292 posts
Posted on 8/14/16 at 9:12 pm to
I'm high and dry in LP....$$$
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37185 posts
Posted on 8/14/16 at 9:27 pm to
The more immediate impact you will see is in rental housing - it's likely that vacant apartments and rental homes/doubles will get swallowed up in the next couple of days.

As far as housing values, it will be interesting to see. Will depend on those who wish to relocate / need to relocate vs available property. The numbers we are seeing are bad but nowhere near Katrina levels as far as number of people who will need to relocate.

Also, we have different appraisal rules now than we did in the post-Katrina boom. Yes, there was a quick jackup in prices after Katrina but they came down and a lot of people bought at the top of the market and are just now, 11 years later, no longer, sorry the word, underwater on their mortgages.

A price is a price, so selling homes may create some value, but will banks go for refinances using bubble valuations? I don't know.
Posted by seawolf06
NH
Member since Oct 2007
8159 posts
Posted on 8/14/16 at 9:51 pm to
If you are dry, your value increases significantly. If you got water, your value decreases likely. Not just because of the water, but because everyone now knows the safe places versus the potential hazards.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25416 posts
Posted on 8/15/16 at 12:01 am to
In areas hit by natural disaster.....the homes that were not impacted or not damaged see a temporary increase in value. Rents spike in the short term. 8-10 months later things return to normal. There will be a very robust home rennovation and repair business for the next year or so.


Edit: Also, vehicle sales will probably go up locally in the next month or so.
This post was edited on 8/15/16 at 10:31 pm
Posted by SippyCup
Gulf Coast
Member since Sep 2008
6151 posts
Posted on 8/15/16 at 7:51 am to
Inventory was already low so it has been a sellers market for the past few months. This is not a disaster as widespread as Katrina, not even close, so I don't think you will see the price gauging that went on in the aftermath. If anything, the prices will remain where they currently have been or slightly higher but last through the slower winter months where prices tend to drop.
Posted by 911Moto
Member since Sep 2013
5491 posts
Posted on 8/15/16 at 2:43 pm to
The market was crazy on the Northshore after Katrina. Within the first few months, prices shot up around $100K in some dry neighborhoods. Didn't take long for the market to correct itself though. For Katrina, my home was dry but the area my practice was in flooded severely, so I put my house up for sale right away at "normal" pricing,. I was going to move to Picayune and open a new practice. Buyer fell through, and I changed my mind and decided to ride it out. A month later prices went through the roof. I was so glad I hadn't sold for $100K less. Life returned to normal much quicker than I expected. My life would have been so different if I had followed through on those initial plans. The moral is that many people will be in a panic and make rash decisions. It's a situation that is hard to be prepared for if you haven't been through it before. In some areas the market will be devastated and may never return to normal levels (went through this in Chalmette after the 5 year flood cycle kicked off by May 3, 1978). In other areas, like parts of Slidell that stayed dry even through a test as severe as Katrina, prices will soon skyrocket (especially when the flood insurance money starts flowing in) as demand outweighs supply. After a year or so it will return back closer to normal levels.
This post was edited on 8/15/16 at 2:44 pm
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45828 posts
Posted on 8/15/16 at 10:38 pm to
I have heard that there have been 28k flood claims filed. That is a lot of inventory off the market for 6 months-1.5 years...
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10234 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 4:55 pm to
It did in Cedar Rapids, but our flood was over 1B in damage. I think private property was 858MM, and public buildings more than that. Bad deal for me.

What is the estimate there for dollar amount of residential damage?

Rental property owners here got both CDBG monies, and LOST monies. CDBG will be tied to affordable housing. You'll get. The same if your state and local gvts are organized, and if there is a federal declaration.

State is the eligible recipient. They make a state action plan, and. Locals get monies from there. It takes time as FEMA comes in a does an audit, probably 5 years down the road. Both state and local could pay funds back.

I was pretty involved here. We developed business jump start out of federal monies, first in the nation business funding, and developed a rental property rehab program from federal monies as well.

So will rental houses get rehabbed? Depends on level of organization. Will bargain rentals become available? Yes. Will there be opportunity to flip? Our guidelines were the recipient needed to own for five years.

It was a long painful process, but if there are some organized rental property and business owners down there with some political connection, I'm happy to turn over what we developed.

I've been thinking about. You guys down there. Lots of good people on the outdoor board doing great work.

You might want to share this post on both outdoor and ot, and see if there are some people willing to organize, get aggressive, and get some. Recovery money directed where it might not otherwise be directed.

Flood cost me 700,000, and I got about 125,000 I would have never gotten as a landlord and business owner.

Only good thing that came out of it was the local election, and the business guys I met when we got organized. They actually had us meet the head of FEMA at that time, and I suspect some of the programs we developed can be copied.

A word of warning, if you lost your arse, and lack patience, this is going to be tough. We had shouting matches with elected guys regularly. It was tough, and I'd never want to go through it again.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
78097 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 9:57 am to
Paid $69,000 for a 1 BR Condo 1 month before Katrina.

Sold it 6 months later for $105,000

Property values are going to skyrocket.
This post was edited on 8/17/16 at 9:58 am
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