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re: Update pg 3 - Had to fire contractor for home reno and need to recover costs:
Posted on 6/29/16 at 12:05 pm to SadSouthernBuck
Posted on 6/29/16 at 12:05 pm to SadSouthernBuck
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You can always (and should always) require a performance bond. It should be a red flag if the contractor balks at this stipulation.
agreed, it's a good way to weed out the fly by nights, but even then you have to stay on them as work progresses, as opposed to just assuming they'll do everything as they're supposed to
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 12:05 pm to SUB
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When we found out him running out of money,
When we found out he was running out of money,
FIFY
Oh and, you'll never see a dime of that money back. You should've used Amazon Home services, they background check and perform a quality check on contractors that use their platform. Angie's List will even guarantee the work of the contractor up to $10K if shoddy work is performed. You should've done a better job researching contractors, I guess this is a hard lesson for you to learn.
This post was edited on 6/29/16 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 6/29/16 at 12:08 pm to crimsonsaint
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So you paid for 85% of the work and 85% of the work has been completed? You aren't trying to recoup any lost money. You're trying to profit from the situation.
bullshite. He said the work that was completed is shitty because the gc did it himself to save costs and he wasn't qualified to do the work. Now he needs to get some of the work redone and he wants to recoup the money he spent paying for the guy to do a shitty job in the first place.
Not to mention the 3% penalty for late completion that the client and contractor both signed. The 3% penalty was supposed to be a deterrent for late
Posted on 6/29/16 at 12:08 pm to SUB
Don't take the low bid. Best advice there is.
No, you won't have any luck recovering your money. You just paid a lot of tuition to the school of hard knocks to learn to not take the low bid. Take the middle bid.
No, you won't have any luck recovering your money. You just paid a lot of tuition to the school of hard knocks to learn to not take the low bid. Take the middle bid.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 12:10 pm to SadSouthernBuck
You can always (and should always) require a performance bond. It should be a red flag if the contractor balks at this stipulation.
Ain't nobody bonding a residential remodel.
Ain't nobody bonding a residential remodel.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 12:11 pm to Mie2cents
The only satisfaction you will get is if the local D.A agrees to press charges
Posted on 6/29/16 at 12:23 pm to bigwheel
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The only satisfaction you will get is if the local D.A agrees to press charges
Wrong.
This is a civil matter and he needs a civil litigator if he wants to try and sue the contractor.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 12:25 pm to SUB
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small claims court
Costs time and money to do. What's your time worth? And unless you're willing to accept a judgment in the form of this guy's oxy stash, he's likely judgement proof.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 12:27 pm to Breauxsif
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, I guess this is a hard lesson for you to learn.
Indeed. And I agree. It's actually really tough to get a good contractor in my town. Most are incredibly busy and won't answer phone or respond to messages. I got quotes from 3 different people. 1 guy we liked, but he would not respond after giving me the initial quote. Another guy was good, but a little out of our price range. The guy we went with was the lowest bid, obviously, but he seemed really organized and had some experience, but we would have liked for him to have more experience. It came down to us just wanting to get the stuff done and were tired of dealing with getting quotes.
It's our fault for not spending more time, and yeah, a hard lesson learned.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 12:30 pm to SUB
This goes to everyone. First, thanks for the advice. Second, would you dispute charges on your credit card if you were in my situation?
Posted on 6/29/16 at 12:34 pm to Chad504boy
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his name was Jose, or Juan, or Pablo?
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this guy sounds like a bobby, phil, or mike.
My money is on Roosevelt, Tyrone or Leroy.
Possibly Shaleka Lee
Posted on 6/29/16 at 12:34 pm to SUB
A lot of times a judgment is worth only the paper it's written on. This sounds like it may be one of those times.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 12:35 pm to SUB
Should've used Porch.com
With all technology we have at our hands you went about it wrong. If you liked the initial contractor you came in contact with, why didn't you try and negotiate more? Like there isn't any room on his end to come down on the cost?
With all technology we have at our hands you went about it wrong. If you liked the initial contractor you came in contact with, why didn't you try and negotiate more? Like there isn't any room on his end to come down on the cost?
Posted on 6/29/16 at 12:39 pm to SadSouthernBuck
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quote:bonding is usually stipulated by the party putting the job out for bid, the bonding that little guys like this are referring to when they say they are bonded is really more more of a type of liability insurance implying that they aren't going to sue the owner for getting hurt on their job site, for example
That's not a bond. That is just General Liability Insurance.
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True but having a performance bond as part of the contract would've helped the OP out in this situation. You can always (and should always) require a performance bond. It should be a red flag if the contractor balks at this stipulation.
There is not a small renovation contractor around that can put up a performance or payment bond nor is it a red flag. It is a house renovation - he's not renovating the White House.
I know. I have Surety Bonds on place right now and it's not for a kitchen renovation.
Jesus.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 12:44 pm to Martini
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That's not a bond. That is just General Liability Insurance.
what I meant is pretty much the entire paragraph, little guys running around in their handy man vans that say fully licensed and bonded on the side are referring to their insurance as a bond
This post was edited on 6/29/16 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 10/12/16 at 7:38 pm to 777Tiger
Thought I would give an update on this. I filed a dispute on my credit card and sent my contractor an itemized explanation of the chargeback that tied to his scope of work. I received confirmation from the bank that the disputed has been resolved and the credit will remain on my account.
So either he ok'd it or just didn't respond to it. Does he have any legal recourse now? It doesn't seem likely or worth it that he'd file a suit over something less than $10k, closer to $5k.
Anyway, I got my money back...despite what many here thought would never happen. I know most contractors don't do credit cards, but it's great to have some recourse if they try to screw your over.
So either he ok'd it or just didn't respond to it. Does he have any legal recourse now? It doesn't seem likely or worth it that he'd file a suit over something less than $10k, closer to $5k.
Anyway, I got my money back...despite what many here thought would never happen. I know most contractors don't do credit cards, but it's great to have some recourse if they try to screw your over.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 7:46 pm to AUCE05
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Chalk it up as a lesson in construction. Always vet your subs.
And never pay in advance for work that is not yet completed.
For the dollar amounts you are quoting it's actually a cheap lesson.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 7:46 pm to SUB
He already lost his arse. Chalk up to a bad decision on your part for hiring the cheapest.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 7:47 pm to SUB
Congratulations. Hope you didn't flood and need him again.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 7:49 pm to SUB
Can't get blood from a turnip. The dude is obviously broke. Sometimes the cheapest bid is not always the cheapest.
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