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re: Are we headed to martial law?
Posted on 6/29/16 at 10:32 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 6/29/16 at 10:32 am to RogerTheShrubber
Just making a general reference for the gun owners who freely and with their own doing purchased a shite load of ammo. And I guess the manufacturers if it helped business in the US.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 10:32 am to CoachDon
Its all about FEMA. Have you not watched any Xfiles?
Posted on 6/29/16 at 10:33 am to CoachDon
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If "those people" did such a thing in a society with the number of armed civilians that we have in this country, "those people" would not last very long...at all.
Which is exactly what Obama and Co would use as grounds for martial law. Can't have racist white people shooting innocents.
This post was edited on 6/29/16 at 10:33 am
Posted on 6/29/16 at 10:34 am to Spaceman Spiff
Most people that work for federal government organizations were not just hired over the last 8 years. The fact that someone works for the federal government does not in anyway mean they have some crazy militant allegiance with Obama, and would be willing to die for him to remain in power.
It really is hilarious to hear some of the crazy stuff people think that Obama is going to do. Can anyone that believes this give me any action taken by Obama that would give any rational person the belief that he plans to stay in office and take over the country with the military?
By the way a have plenty of friends in the military, and the overwhelming majority are conservative and don't particularly like Obama, but yeah you're right he's going to use the military along with his militia of Mailmen, nurses from the VA, and accountants from the IRS to crown himself King...
It really is hilarious to hear some of the crazy stuff people think that Obama is going to do. Can anyone that believes this give me any action taken by Obama that would give any rational person the belief that he plans to stay in office and take over the country with the military?
By the way a have plenty of friends in the military, and the overwhelming majority are conservative and don't particularly like Obama, but yeah you're right he's going to use the military along with his militia of Mailmen, nurses from the VA, and accountants from the IRS to crown himself King...
Posted on 6/29/16 at 10:35 am to notsince98
Ha, the cat's out of the bag, so to speak. With as heavily armed as the U.S. populace is, it would be bloodier than the civil war if martial law were to be imposed. The only scenario I can see this possibly happening would be one where there is a world war, and martial law is imposed so as to protect citizens. But even that is a far cry from reality, or ever happening.
Large global conflicts with multi national forces are a thing of the past. And to echo what has been mentioned already, it would have to be imposed by the very people that are going to be most affected by it. The average citizen. Good luck with that.
Large global conflicts with multi national forces are a thing of the past. And to echo what has been mentioned already, it would have to be imposed by the very people that are going to be most affected by it. The average citizen. Good luck with that.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 10:35 am to fatboydave
Well you do know FEMA has all the concentration camps ready to go and the coffins too. And the gov has secretly been moving armored vehicles around the country on trains for everyone to see. LOL
Paging all loons, especially yoga girl.
Paging all loons, especially yoga girl.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 10:56 am to notiger1997
it's obvious several people fail to understand the way government agency budgeting works. it's a use it or lose it system. they lobby for the money, they get it, they have to use it or they face budget cuts the next year. i imagine with the onslaught of terrorism over the last decade and a half that there has been specific budgeting for security and defense, and that these purchases are a way for agencies to keep the money spigot flowing.
besides the outlandish nature of the idea of government workers employing martial law, it logistically doesn't make sense. do you think your local, unguarded post office is also hiding a stockpile of heavy weapons?
people are also missing the big picture about how our system of government works. say obama declares martial law, do you really think your local conservative sheriff is going to enforce that? your local national guard is probably heavily made up of local pd, sheriffs, firemen, etc., very few of which would ever turn on their own citizens. there have been several instances of high ranking elected state officials openly defying court orders (think gay marriage in alabama). what makes you think those people will suddenly bow down to obama and decide to start shooting up their citizens?
besides the outlandish nature of the idea of government workers employing martial law, it logistically doesn't make sense. do you think your local, unguarded post office is also hiding a stockpile of heavy weapons?
people are also missing the big picture about how our system of government works. say obama declares martial law, do you really think your local conservative sheriff is going to enforce that? your local national guard is probably heavily made up of local pd, sheriffs, firemen, etc., very few of which would ever turn on their own citizens. there have been several instances of high ranking elected state officials openly defying court orders (think gay marriage in alabama). what makes you think those people will suddenly bow down to obama and decide to start shooting up their citizens?
Posted on 6/29/16 at 11:03 am to lsujro
All good points.
Where I do think it could get interesting one day though is if we had major unrest in the hood. Imagine the economy going way to shite and things get really bad in south Chicago or Detroit. I guess the national guard could handle that, but you wonder if the feds would need to get involved in the whole fiasco.
Where I do think it could get interesting one day though is if we had major unrest in the hood. Imagine the economy going way to shite and things get really bad in south Chicago or Detroit. I guess the national guard could handle that, but you wonder if the feds would need to get involved in the whole fiasco.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 11:04 am to notiger1997
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Where I do think it could get interesting one day though is if we had major unrest in the hood. Imagine the economy going way to shite and things get really bad in south Chicago or Detroit. I guess the national guard could handle that, but you wonder if the feds would need to get involved in the whole fiasco.
I think this whole thing is orchestrated for a major explosion during the Republican convention this summer.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 11:07 am to RogerTheShrubber
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orchestrated
Please expound on this? Who's setting this up and why? Would it be just a national guard deal or are you suggesting the crazy stuff about a nation wide martial law of some kind.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 11:08 am to Spaceman Spiff
It will be called "civil emergency"
Posted on 6/29/16 at 11:12 am to notiger1997
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Please expound on this? Who's setting this up and why? Would it be just a national guard deal or are you suggesting the crazy stuff about a nation wide martial law of some kind.
I believe there is a media push to create a frenzy, which we've seen a little of so far, during the Republican nomination. I believe media powers and government "elites" are far more in collusion than most people can see.
99% of the decisions that drive this country are done behind closed doors. We've been given the illusion of vote (in national elections)
This is a fairly mainstream theory, though it once lived in the shadows occupied by conspiracy types. After the things that have occurred this election cycle, I think many eyes have been opened. Martial law will become more common when people become conditioned to accepting "only the federal government can keep them safe." The Patriot Act was a huge step in that direction.
If voting made any difference, they wouldn't let us do it.
This post was edited on 6/29/16 at 11:14 am
Posted on 6/29/16 at 11:12 am to notsince98
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Can't have racist white people shooting innocents.
What if we just shoot our own white guilt sellouts? Would still be a majority victory.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 11:19 am to RogerTheShrubber
Ok, but do you really think they will push this as some kind of whole country deal or just something in a few urban hoods?
I just can't see it getting past that point.
And this whole original topic of arming up the rent a cops has nothing to do with what how your scenerio would play out.
I just can't see it getting past that point.
And this whole original topic of arming up the rent a cops has nothing to do with what how your scenerio would play out.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 11:36 am to Spaceman Spiff
you disgrace the Spaceman Spiff name w/this this thread
Posted on 6/29/16 at 11:37 am to Spaceman Spiff
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that martial law can be evoked and king nobama can get a third term.
He would literally be dead within a week if he tried that
Posted on 6/29/16 at 12:04 pm to Breesus
I think Obama wants a third term about as much as I want a second a-hole. Maybe even less. But yeah, keep on believing that crazy tinfoil hat bullshite.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 12:09 pm to notiger1997
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Ok, but do you really think they will push this as some kind of whole country deal or just something in a few urban hoods?
I just can't see it getting past that point.
And this whole original topic of arming up the rent a cops has nothing to do with what how your scenerio would play out
Govt has been giving local department military equipment like beads from a Mardis Gras float.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 12:20 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I think this whole thing is orchestrated for a major explosion during the Republican convention this summer.
That was the topic of another conversation in the office - which is made of both right and left supporters and gets quite heated at times and brought up these questions: Why is it that the left/democrats are the only ones protesting (often violently) at the other sides rallys? Is it true that some of these very same protesters have been seen at different rallys and inciting anarchy? Why is the media not covering those facts (if you don't think this admin and the media aren't in bed, then you're blind)? Who is orchestrating that?
Whether you choose to believe this administration is up to something or not, its up to you. I just asked simple questions to get a feel from the glorious OT.
This post was edited on 6/29/16 at 12:22 pm
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