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re: Does Buddy Start? Do you want him to?
Posted on 6/23/16 at 7:52 pm to ShamelessPel
Posted on 6/23/16 at 7:52 pm to ShamelessPel
Sour would mean I would give a C
How come you have to think a guy is the greatest player ever or a scrub? Can there be no in between?
I have said forever his most likely career is Redick. In fact, I wrote that in January before anyone else made that comparison
I said his ceiling is Mitch Richmond. I think he is a good player. Just not an 'A' pick IMO
How come you have to think a guy is the greatest player ever or a scrub? Can there be no in between?
I have said forever his most likely career is Redick. In fact, I wrote that in January before anyone else made that comparison
I said his ceiling is Mitch Richmond. I think he is a good player. Just not an 'A' pick IMO
Posted on 6/23/16 at 7:52 pm to danman6336
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I like Reek off the bench
I don't. I like Frazier a lot. Plus that's another 10 in cap space
Posted on 6/23/16 at 7:54 pm to Crewz
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Sour would mean I would give a C
How come you have to think a guy is the greatest player ever or a scrub? Can there be no in between?
I have said forever his most likely career is Redick. In fact, I wrote that in January before anyone else made that comparison
I said his ceiling is Mitch Richmond. I think he is a good player. Just not an '
Sour as in if it was Murray plus Evans dump you'd give it an A++++++++++.
Posted on 6/23/16 at 7:56 pm to Crewz
How can you watch his game and call him defensive Redick? He's a superior athlete with much better handles coming into the league than Redick has ever had by quite a margin.
Posted on 6/23/16 at 7:58 pm to Crewz
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I don't think any team will have the balls to trade for Reke until his medicals come back okay and that could be a while. But man, if they can dump him tonight; this will be a B+ or A- night for me
That would pretty amazing.
Realistically though I think a best case scenario would be both Hield and Evans exceeding expectations and the market for Evans rising and then making a trade near the deadline. Though given "win now" that would seem unrealistic but if Hield looks like the obvious long term SG we might just do it?
Posted on 6/23/16 at 8:01 pm to ShamelessPel
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How can you watch his game and call him defensive Redick? He's a superior athlete with much better handles coming into the league than Redick has ever had by quite a margin.
I have never liked the Reddick comparison. To me it doesnt jive with what I have seen from him outside of a few skillsets.
Buddy is a superior athlete, a more diverse scorer and has much better length(Redick had a wingspan of 6'3.25" compared to Hield at 6'9.25}, verticality and agility.
Hields physical tools just give him a better ceiling out the gate so capping him at Reddick seems a bit silly.
This post was edited on 6/23/16 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 6/23/16 at 8:02 pm to ShamelessPel
Let me be clear, I think he will give a team the PRODUCTION that Redick provides. Thats what I do with comparions. No guy has the same shooting ability same, ball handling, etc as some other guy.
I am saying to expect similar production. Constant scoring that can occassionally be explosive. Few boards, few assists, few steals/blocks, but a high eFG.
That make it any more clear about how I feel about Buddy?
I am saying to expect similar production. Constant scoring that can occassionally be explosive. Few boards, few assists, few steals/blocks, but a high eFG.
That make it any more clear about how I feel about Buddy?
Posted on 6/23/16 at 8:03 pm to Crewz
Also, remember, I came on here a few weeks ago and said their dream summer was Buddy and Batum.
I think its a long shot, but they will try
I think its a long shot, but they will try
Posted on 6/23/16 at 8:04 pm to Crewz
I think refick is a good mid range comp
He could certainly be better
He could certainly be better
Posted on 6/23/16 at 8:06 pm to LosLobos111
Agree. And like I said, I think Mitch Richmond is the ceiling. Next step is to get a playmaking/defensive SF.
As if that will be easy. But they will try.
As if that will be easy. But they will try.
Posted on 6/23/16 at 8:07 pm to Crewz
Yes some but I'm surprised that someone with as much knowledge as you would choose to use box score stats.
Better penetrator and ball handler = a much different career arc. Redick was only going to be a kick out or curl off screens guy. Buddy will actually space the floor from the 3 pt line to the rim. He doesn't need other guys to set him up 100% of the time. He can create his own shot. These are intangibles that even if he became a similar box score to Redick, it should come at a more efficient rate. Then there's the defensive side of the ball..
Better penetrator and ball handler = a much different career arc. Redick was only going to be a kick out or curl off screens guy. Buddy will actually space the floor from the 3 pt line to the rim. He doesn't need other guys to set him up 100% of the time. He can create his own shot. These are intangibles that even if he became a similar box score to Redick, it should come at a more efficient rate. Then there's the defensive side of the ball..
This post was edited on 6/23/16 at 8:09 pm
Posted on 6/23/16 at 8:11 pm to ShamelessPel
As much as you seem to think I underrate Buddy, I wonder how much you have watched Redick lately.
He is not the 'White guy shooter' that most people think of him as. He has a very nice handle. He is incredibly smart and more athletic than most people associate with a white shooter.
But yes, I am talking about what he produces for your team and what the opposition scouting report says. I would bet that if you looked at opposing scouting reports next year for JJ and Buddy and took the names off, you wouldn't be able to tell who was who
But I digress. I like the pick, but I still think this team will have to find one more guy better than Buddy and Jrue to ever really contend. And that will be hard
He is not the 'White guy shooter' that most people think of him as. He has a very nice handle. He is incredibly smart and more athletic than most people associate with a white shooter.
But yes, I am talking about what he produces for your team and what the opposition scouting report says. I would bet that if you looked at opposing scouting reports next year for JJ and Buddy and took the names off, you wouldn't be able to tell who was who
But I digress. I like the pick, but I still think this team will have to find one more guy better than Buddy and Jrue to ever really contend. And that will be hard
Posted on 6/23/16 at 8:24 pm to shel311
He's 22 years old. No time for him to wait, especially with Gordon gone. This dude should be a starter day 1, and I think he will.
Posted on 6/23/16 at 8:29 pm to lsusportsman2
I disagree. I like a guy to master one thing, then give him more, then more, then more until he is ready. Like the Spurs did with Kawhi. Or for football fans, think of a pass rusher. You start off just letting him come in on third down and attacking, then you slowly work him in to other situations.
I personally think that works best. Kid isn't overwhelmed. Not too much expected of him, etc. Plus, you gotta consider that he played 40 games last year and will have to play twice that this year. I'd rather he hit his stride in February than hit the wall.
I personally think that works best. Kid isn't overwhelmed. Not too much expected of him, etc. Plus, you gotta consider that he played 40 games last year and will have to play twice that this year. I'd rather he hit his stride in February than hit the wall.
Posted on 6/23/16 at 8:36 pm to lsusportsman2
There is a learning curve for NBA rookies, 18 or 22. It is hard for rookies to be good NBA players.
He may start day 1. But being 22 doesn't mean he will be a net positive to the Pels this season
He may start day 1. But being 22 doesn't mean he will be a net positive to the Pels this season
Posted on 6/23/16 at 8:40 pm to corndeaux
Yeah, people should read Verrier's latest piece. Basically, you dont find plus rookies getting starter minutes on winning teams
If the Pels want to make the playoffs next year (and they do), Buddy needs to get 1000-1500 minutes, not 2000+
If the Pels want to make the playoffs next year (and they do), Buddy needs to get 1000-1500 minutes, not 2000+
Posted on 6/23/16 at 8:47 pm to Crewz
Do you think there is any chance to bring in a guy like Batum?
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