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re: Should the CWS rotate to different locations?
Posted on 6/22/16 at 11:58 pm to saintsfan22
Posted on 6/22/16 at 11:58 pm to saintsfan22
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How does moving to a completely different park where no one can hit home runs not do this?
guess I'll be the one to point out that Rosenblatt and TD Ameritrade have the exact same dimensions
It's not the park
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Posted on 6/23/16 at 12:00 am to StrongBackWeakMind
I said earlier, I think it would be cool.
But it's not fair.
This isn't major league baseball...teams wouldn't have the opportunity to gain advantage at their place after losing advantage at an opponents.
This is all neutral.
And we all know...neutral means boring. But that's the way it's got to be.
You can't give certain teams an advantage if they can't take advantage of you going back home to them.
So everyone has to know the deal.
There can't be surprises year to year.
It can't be, "crap we lucked out this year in this stupid park in Arizona!"
Ambiguity, shite...NCAA doesn't go for that.
But it's not fair.
This isn't major league baseball...teams wouldn't have the opportunity to gain advantage at their place after losing advantage at an opponents.
This is all neutral.
And we all know...neutral means boring. But that's the way it's got to be.
You can't give certain teams an advantage if they can't take advantage of you going back home to them.
So everyone has to know the deal.
There can't be surprises year to year.
It can't be, "crap we lucked out this year in this stupid park in Arizona!"
Ambiguity, shite...NCAA doesn't go for that.
This post was edited on 6/23/16 at 12:03 am
Posted on 6/23/16 at 12:02 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Still confused how it would be unfair to any particular team.
Posted on 6/23/16 at 12:04 am to GynoSandberg
The change in parks coincided with the reduction in bat size, correct?
Posted on 6/23/16 at 12:08 am to GynoSandberg
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guess I'll be the one to point out that Rosenblatt and TD Ameritrade have the exact same dimensions
It's in a different direction so the wind blows different. Also expansion of Rosenblatt to begin with nullifies his insane "it has to be the same for historical stats" argument.
quote:
It's not the park
Obviously the bats don't help
This post was edited on 6/23/16 at 12:09 am
Posted on 6/23/16 at 12:17 am to StrongBackWeakMind
Imagine LSU is in the old Rosenblatt bombing away...and then next year they are in Ameritrade and don't win shite...they hit two singles...in the title game...
And then next year they go the desert and Arizona wins it because it's homefield.
And then they go back to Rosenblatt and LSU loses because they changed their style for Ameritrade...and gets bombed out of the park...
And then they go to big cities but small ballparks...etc.
There's no infrastructure to rotate this on a realistic, fair and reasonable level.
parks are all different across the nation and most can't host a regional let alone a CWS.
My point was to address how this was impossible, unfair, totally unrealistic and how the NCAA would never go for it.
And then next year they go the desert and Arizona wins it because it's homefield.
And then they go back to Rosenblatt and LSU loses because they changed their style for Ameritrade...and gets bombed out of the park...
And then they go to big cities but small ballparks...etc.
There's no infrastructure to rotate this on a realistic, fair and reasonable level.
parks are all different across the nation and most can't host a regional let alone a CWS.
My point was to address how this was impossible, unfair, totally unrealistic and how the NCAA would never go for it.
This post was edited on 6/23/16 at 12:19 am
Posted on 6/23/16 at 12:18 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
I can't believe I went through 3 pages of this. What's your "fairness" for regionals and super regionals being at different parks yearly? Your whole consistently things is damn near full retard level. Carry on.
Posted on 6/23/16 at 12:23 am to dukesilver72
We are talking about the finals.
That's all the NCAA cares about in sanctioning.
What's your excuse for not reading their bylaws and protocols.
We care about finals in sports.
NCAA basketball has different tournaments to get to the 64 in basketball and different regionals...but Final Four...
Final 8 baseball.
Don't try to derail this thread because you don't understand how NCAA athletics work compared to MLB or even CFB...
They have a specific program to make it as fair as possible without over-burdening.
And you have to be loose in the regionals...but once it gets to the championship round...they know for posterity it has to equal.
That's all the NCAA cares about in sanctioning.
What's your excuse for not reading their bylaws and protocols.
We care about finals in sports.
NCAA basketball has different tournaments to get to the 64 in basketball and different regionals...but Final Four...
Final 8 baseball.
Don't try to derail this thread because you don't understand how NCAA athletics work compared to MLB or even CFB...
They have a specific program to make it as fair as possible without over-burdening.
And you have to be loose in the regionals...but once it gets to the championship round...they know for posterity it has to equal.
Posted on 6/23/16 at 3:06 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Really?
You don't understand the difference between uniform basketball courts and football fields...and the difference between non-uniform baseball fields?
This is not something you learned?
College Baseball has a history...and you can't start shopping around. Stats matter, dimensions matter, the field matters...you can't start having teams mold their squads based on what year is going to what place.
You are aware most baseball diamonds aren't like football fields, uniform...no home field short right field and a basketball court is uniform no matter where you play it.
You can't change the playing field every year...because you are obviously changing the parameters of winning the title.
It's pretty obvious.
It's shopping best locations for pitchers or bomber teams.
Jesus, you are a moron. Nobody is going to build a team around a park they probably won't get to play in. College baseball teams are normally built to suit there home park. Your concern is very stupid
This post was edited on 6/23/16 at 3:12 am
Posted on 6/23/16 at 6:15 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Skip is that you? Never seen such pointless drivel so ridiculously defended. It's not like the base paths would be at 60 feet if they played out in California. The fence and foul line territory would just be different, but you make it sound like there'd be a different sport played altogether....
This post was edited on 6/23/16 at 6:16 am
Posted on 6/23/16 at 6:21 am to ctiger69
Pointless discussion; there's a Long-term deal for the current location.
Posted on 6/23/16 at 6:26 am to ctiger69
quote:A 25 year contract the NCAA signed with Omaha says no.
Should the CWS rotate to different locations?
This post was edited on 6/23/16 at 6:44 am
Posted on 6/23/16 at 6:33 am to Diamondawg
There are more ways to win than hitting home runs. The ball doesn't carry as well at the new park, so what. If you bunch hits, hit and run, steal a base, bunt, you can score runs.....if you're good enough. Some people act like if you can't hit bunches of home runs you won't score. Pitching and defense are every bit as important as hitting.
Posted on 6/23/16 at 6:42 am to ctiger69
No. No, it shouldn't.
Omaha is a cool city. And they love having the CWS there. It is a great place for it.
Omaha is a cool city. And they love having the CWS there. It is a great place for it.
Posted on 6/23/16 at 6:55 am to ctiger69
In theory, it should. It is Nebraska for crying out loud. But the city stuck with the game when no one cared, and they are under contract until 2035. Just move the fences in.
Posted on 6/23/16 at 7:13 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
This thread is full of SJW-sounding whining about changing the world so everything is fair. So sad.
Why would it be so bad to rotate locations? Why would a team build themselves according to where the championship is being played? Wouldn't they build themselves to win enough games to at least make it to the WS? Can't put the cart before the horse.
Here's an idea...maybe the champions would be the team that could demonstrate enough skill to have success regardless of what field they're on? You know, versatility, adaptability. I think the best of the best could do that.
Why would it be so bad to rotate locations? Why would a team build themselves according to where the championship is being played? Wouldn't they build themselves to win enough games to at least make it to the WS? Can't put the cart before the horse.
Here's an idea...maybe the champions would be the team that could demonstrate enough skill to have success regardless of what field they're on? You know, versatility, adaptability. I think the best of the best could do that.
Posted on 6/23/16 at 7:46 am to GetCocky11
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maha is a cool city. And they love having the CWS there. It is a great place for it.
Yes, but the new ballpark ruined everything. If you play 13 games and 32 combined runs are scored with 2 home runs, it's boring as frick.
Maybe they should do like the SEC--say they want to move it, get a couple of superior bids from destination cities, and then say "never mind."
Posted on 6/23/16 at 7:58 am to ctiger69
Love it being in one spot. It's a destination and just saying the word inspires players and fans.
Now that abomination of a stadium with no carry and white lattice for trim work is another story. I know it has all the amenities but I mean how do you tear down a gem like Rosenblatt for that cardboard box?
Now that abomination of a stadium with no carry and white lattice for trim work is another story. I know it has all the amenities but I mean how do you tear down a gem like Rosenblatt for that cardboard box?
Posted on 6/23/16 at 8:20 am to ctiger69
Are there even enough College stadiums suited for that many fans? They seem to be quite a bit smaller overall.
The Zephyrs are playing in Omaha right now so I don't see using milb parks as a viable option.
The Zephyrs are playing in Omaha right now so I don't see using milb parks as a viable option.
Posted on 6/23/16 at 8:25 am to double d
quote:Well people havent figured out how to score there these last three years.......
There are more ways to win than hitting home runs. The ball doesn't carry as well at the new park, so what. If you bunch hits, hit and run, steal a base, bunt, you can score runs.....if you're good enough. Some people act like if you can't hit bunches of home runs you won't score.
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