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Question for law enforcement/lawyers
Posted on 5/13/16 at 10:37 am
Posted on 5/13/16 at 10:37 am
Are collapsible police batons legal for civilians to carry on their person, in their vehicle, or keep in their home? Does the length of the baton effect this? Does a concealed carry permit effect this?
Posted on 5/13/16 at 10:38 am to shinerfan
I carry an old hickory stick. Beat my goat with it too. He never shuts up
Posted on 5/13/16 at 10:39 am to shinerfan
Just go get a tire thumper at the nearest truck stop.
Posted on 5/13/16 at 10:39 am to shinerfan
Ask Tangerine, he's an expert on all things police.
Posted on 5/13/16 at 10:43 am to shinerfan
Posted on 5/13/16 at 10:46 am to shinerfan
Off the top of my head, I don't think anything bars you from carrying one.
Just remember if you do and you don't know retention techniques they can be easily taken away from you and you against you.
Just remember if you do and you don't know retention techniques they can be easily taken away from you and you against you.
This post was edited on 5/13/16 at 10:51 am
Posted on 5/13/16 at 10:47 am to shinerfan
Reminds me of the time my dad bought police night sticks for me and my friends at the gun and knife show when we were 9. He got a few phone calls after that.
OP: if they sell it on Amazon, you're probably in the clear. LINK
OP: if they sell it on Amazon, you're probably in the clear. LINK
This post was edited on 5/13/16 at 10:51 am
Posted on 5/13/16 at 10:49 am to Clyde Tipton
quote:This. Or a shark bat but always keep a fishing rod in the bed of your truck or your trunk.
Just go get a tire thumper at the nearest truck stop.
Posted on 5/13/16 at 10:58 am to mdomingue
Civilians can own these batons. However, if you conceal one on your person in public it can be considered carrying a concealed weapon. Same as a gun or knife. Look up LRS 14:95
Posted on 5/13/16 at 10:59 am to Nado Jenkins83
quote:
I carry an old hickory stick. Beat my goat with it too. He never shuts up
You guys heard that? He was frickin beatin me loud.
Posted on 5/13/16 at 11:00 am to RodMad501
quote:
Same as a gun or knife
Having a knife in your pocket is considered a concealed weapon?
Posted on 5/13/16 at 11:03 am to upgrayedd
The statute is longer than this, but here is the main part.
§95. Illegal carrying of weapons
A. Illegal carrying of weapons is:
(1) The intentional concealment of any firearm, or other instrumentality customarily used or intended for probable use as a dangerous weapon, on one's person; or
(2) The ownership, possession, custody or use of any firearm, or other instrumentality customarily used as a dangerous weapon, at any time by an enemy alien; or
(3) The ownership, possession, custody or use of any tools, or dynamite, or nitroglycerine, or explosives, or other instrumentality customarily used by thieves or burglars at any time by any person with the intent to commit a crime; or
(4)(a) The manufacture, ownership, possession, custody or use of any switchblade knife, spring knife or other knife or similar instrument having a blade which may be automatically unfolded or extended from a handle by the manipulation of a button, switch, latch or similar contrivance located on the handle.
(b) The provisions of this Paragraph shall not apply to the following:
(i) Any knife that may be opened with one hand by manual pressure applied to the blade or any projection of the blade.
(ii) Any knife that may be opened by means of inertia produced by the hand, wrist, or other movement, provided the knife has either a detent or other structure that provides resistance that shall be overcome in opening or initiating the opening movement of the blade or a bias or spring load toward the closed position.
(5)(a) The intentional possession or use by any person of a dangerous weapon on a school campus during regular school hours or on a school bus. "School" means any elementary, secondary, high school, or vo-tech school in this state and "campus" means all facilities and property within the boundary of the school property. "School bus" means any motor bus being used to transport children to and from school or in connection with school activities.
§95. Illegal carrying of weapons
A. Illegal carrying of weapons is:
(1) The intentional concealment of any firearm, or other instrumentality customarily used or intended for probable use as a dangerous weapon, on one's person; or
(2) The ownership, possession, custody or use of any firearm, or other instrumentality customarily used as a dangerous weapon, at any time by an enemy alien; or
(3) The ownership, possession, custody or use of any tools, or dynamite, or nitroglycerine, or explosives, or other instrumentality customarily used by thieves or burglars at any time by any person with the intent to commit a crime; or
(4)(a) The manufacture, ownership, possession, custody or use of any switchblade knife, spring knife or other knife or similar instrument having a blade which may be automatically unfolded or extended from a handle by the manipulation of a button, switch, latch or similar contrivance located on the handle.
(b) The provisions of this Paragraph shall not apply to the following:
(i) Any knife that may be opened with one hand by manual pressure applied to the blade or any projection of the blade.
(ii) Any knife that may be opened by means of inertia produced by the hand, wrist, or other movement, provided the knife has either a detent or other structure that provides resistance that shall be overcome in opening or initiating the opening movement of the blade or a bias or spring load toward the closed position.
(5)(a) The intentional possession or use by any person of a dangerous weapon on a school campus during regular school hours or on a school bus. "School" means any elementary, secondary, high school, or vo-tech school in this state and "campus" means all facilities and property within the boundary of the school property. "School bus" means any motor bus being used to transport children to and from school or in connection with school activities.
Posted on 5/13/16 at 4:11 pm to shinerfan
A non collapsible nation is much more effective.
Posted on 5/13/16 at 4:22 pm to theenemy
"Off the top of my head..."
Did that on purpose, didn't you?
Did that on purpose, didn't you?
Posted on 5/13/16 at 4:45 pm to shinerfan
Depending on where you hit someone with it, it is considered deadly force. Check the laws in your state for concealed weapons. They are normally pretty specific in listing them.
Never take it to a gun fight.
Never take it to a gun fight.
Posted on 5/13/16 at 4:52 pm to shinerfan
I don't know your laws in your area.
The baton is called an ASP. They really aren't all that effective. They have a ball on the tip that you must place pretty accurately to work effectively. If you miss and just hit with the shaft, it is too thin and lite to have much choice impact.
Axe handle works a lot better.
The baton is called an ASP. They really aren't all that effective. They have a ball on the tip that you must place pretty accurately to work effectively. If you miss and just hit with the shaft, it is too thin and lite to have much choice impact.
Axe handle works a lot better.
This post was edited on 5/13/16 at 5:44 pm
Posted on 5/14/16 at 12:28 pm to Five0
quote:
non collapsible nation is much more effective
I've usually got a 24 inch stilson in my truck but it doesn't fit in my pocket so well.
I'm not really planning to start carrying one, just curious. They seem to be a hot item at gun shows so that made me curious about their legality.
Posted on 5/14/16 at 12:40 pm to Nado Jenkins83
they superimposed me.
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